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@Andreas Geißler

DT

 

@Keguang He 

China Mobile

@Byung-Woo Jun 

Ericsson

 

@N.K. Shankaranarayanan 

Individual

@Dan Timoney 

AT&T

 

@Paweł Pawlak 

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@Dan Xu 

Huawei

 

@Seshu Kumar Mudiganti

Windriver

@Dong Wang

China Telecom

 

 

 

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ONAP takeaways

 

We are encouraging ONAP consumers to share with us their feedback, so we could prioritize our activities and make ONAP better suited their needs and requirements.

LFN Cross-Organization Updates

MAC, SPC, TAC, EUAG, LFN Board

@Keguang He 

LF-AI Taskforce Update
ONAP Large Model  
Possible ONE Summit Demo

LFN Cross-Organization Updates

MAC, SPC, TAC, EUAG, LFN Board

@N.K. Shankaranarayanan

  • Preso from Nephio and ORAN-SC - seems to be heading in he right direction-  

  • Cloud Native Telecom Initiative - CNF Conformance effort that has moved to LFN from CNCF.

Release Status

@Byung-Woo Jun 

Update project status: PTLs started updating project status, key updates and benefits. Thanks! Project Status in New Delhi Release

Project Status in New Delhi Release

RelEng/Infrastructure

@Jessica Gonzalez

GitHub Actions and container signing - Sigstore

  • Nexus3- container signing implemented in September using Sigstore

  • Nexus2 - entire RelEng team met in January to discuss . Will be doing this one community at a time

    • ORAN-SC transition to GHA in process - simpler jobs than ONAP but still  encountering a number of issues.  Learning a lot.

    • ONAP next in line - probably an Q3 deliverable

    • Sonotype EOL-ing Nexus2 - currently on extended support with them

    • no clear path away from nexus 2 for release items.

    • need input from community on artifact storage options

@Andreas Geißler using jfrog @ DT and happy with it.

@Toine Siebelink  for GHA don't have the ability for self merge - has resulted in occasional blockers

PTL Updates

@Andreas Geißler 
@Dan Timoney 

SDNC cannot be updated for Biermann

  • Provided by ODL initially, Kohn release announces ODL was dropping support for that (see kohn release architecture slides)

  • conversation on moving the service orchestrator to teh RFC interface

  • would likely need changes on the SDNC side

  • A&AI links and such need to be aligned for example, so also SO needs to be changes at the same time

  • Hope is to have this addressed in New Delhi

PTL Updates

@Liam Fallon 

Policy: Stepping down - New PTL process started

PTL Updates

@Fiachra Corcoran 

DMaaP: Stepping down - New PTL process started

Subcommittee Updates

Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements

@Byung-Woo Jun 

@Andreas Geißler 

@Fiachra Corcoran  (PTL) initiated the DMaaP Message Router deprecation in New Delhi,

  • DMaaP MR dependencies are being analyzed by Andreas Geissler and others

  • list of components to change to kafka are in the OOM meeting minutes

  • ves collector done

  • ~8 microservices still need to be patched. Needs a review to prioritized.  -should be pretty straightforward

  • DT will be upstreaming a number of changes related to some of these

Subcommittee Updates

Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements

@Paweł Pawlak 

Need a staff member to be the backup for OpenSSF Badging - was previously David

@Kenny Paul (Deactivated) follow up on who will be taking on this role in LFN Feb 15, 2024 

Subcommittee Updates

Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements

@Amy Zwarico 

Package upgrades for New Delhi

Stay tuned for targeted updates that will be needed.

Upcoming Events & Housekeeping

 

ONE Summit : the session agenda for ONE Summit 2024 has been published, https://events.linuxfoundation.org/one-summit-north-america/program/schedule/ . APRIL 29 - MAY 1, 2024 | IN-PERSON LFN D&TF  May 2-3 following ONE Summit

Looking for a new Program Committee member

 

Annual Report https://lfnetworking.org/resources/research/lf-networking-2023-annual-report/

Zoom Chat Log 

00:11:17    Kenny Paul:    https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/x/dEvs
00:29:26    Kenny Paul:    page https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/x/Im-8
00:29:38    Kenny Paul:    release ^^
00:51:33    Byung-Woo Jun:    OOM meeting link, https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/OOM+Meeting+Notes+-+2024-02-07
01:01:49    Tony Hansen:    Kenny, contact me if you need more info on this
01:02:02    Kenny Paul:    thanks Tony. :-)
01:03:07    Kenny Paul:    ONE Summit https://events.linuxfoundation.org/one-summit-north-america/program/schedule/
01:05:09    Kenny Paul:    Annual Report https://lfnetworking.org/resources/research/lf-networking-2023-annual-report/


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Kenny Paul: Yeah, I'll drop the link to the

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Kenny Paul: Wikipage error in the chat window.

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Kenny Paul:  Sandra's unfortunately out due to a family emergency. So

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Kenny Paul: looks like y'all are gonna be stuck with me for a couple of weeks here.

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Byung-Woo Jun: just when I thought I was out the door

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Andreas Geissler: happy to have you Ken?

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Kenny Paul:  All the standard stuff meetings being recorded. You're muted when come in, keep yourself muted. Unless you're talking Star 6. If you're on a phone.

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Kenny Paul: Don't send private chat messages.

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Kenny Paul:  and there we go. Antitrust policy. Notice? Policy is important. We've got multiple companies, including potential industry competitors participating in these meetings. Please review it. If you have any questions. Contact companies, legal counsel.

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Kenny Paul: members of the Linux Foundation may also contact Andrew Uptergrove. It's firm Gesmer, upgrove, Llp.

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Kenny Paul: Which provides legal counsel to the Lf. Its policies enforce whether there is a member of staff attending the call or not.

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Kenny Paul: Preamble thusly delivered.

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Kenny Paul: Here we go.

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Kenny Paul:  quite a few things on the agenda today.

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Kenny Paul: update on the AI task force. And what's planned for the dntf

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Kenny Paul:  talk about release status some discussion of infrastructure related to Sig Star.

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Thomas Kulik: Kenny, Kenny, you are sharing outlook.

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Kenny Paul: Oh, no! Oh, no! Oh, no!

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Andreas Geissler: Oh, my history and my stories.

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Kenny Paul: Oh, yeah, you can all go read that at some point. Oh, my.

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Kenny Paul: thank you.

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Kenny Paul: Where is that?

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Thomas Kulik: Okay, that's not good. Look. no, that's okay.

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Kenny Paul: The X 2.

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Kenny Paul: Well, it's been years since I've done that.

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Kenny Paul: glad that it was something funny. Open,

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Kenny Paul: anyways, a large language model. Release status. Talk about 6 store.

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Kenny Paul: some Ptl updates. Discussion of Dmap and new Delhi.

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Kenny Paul:  talk about open Ssl badging  and then package upgrades and then standard care and feeding

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Kenny Paul: housekeeping stuff. Anything else anyone would like to add.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Kenny, I'll just give a brief update on the elephant tag.

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Kenny Paul: Okay.

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Kenny Paul: hooky duck, anyone else.

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Kenny Paul: Okay. Kiwong, I want to talk a little bit about your thoughts for the Dntf and the one summit

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Keguang He: yeah. Hi, can you? Can I show my desktop? Okay.

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Kenny Paul: don't share your email, though.

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Kenny Paul: Okay, okay.

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Keguang He: you can see my slides.

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Kenny Paul: Yes, sir.

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Keguang He: Okay. Yes, we yes. We have.

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Keguang He: some new requirements this year, and the the 2 requirements is related to landing mode a large model and the generative AI. So we

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Keguang He: join the AI task force meeting and to introduce our requirements for.

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Keguang He: And this is a

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Keguang He: this is the first requirements China, mobile and the infrastructure.

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Keguang He: Will do these requirements together? We will try to enhancing autumns, network through generative AI and the Internet driven technology in onap.

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Keguang He: So we we have a a meeting with the infrast. And

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we have some agreement that we want to use onap. And as a business Internet manager and a sales Internet manager.

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Keguang He: And then maybe we were use nephew as a resource manager for a cloud and age.

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Keguang He: and this is the first requirements, and the second requirements is A is

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Keguang He: I introduced before in on app architect meeting. We, we want to introduce general yeah solution based on large model in, and usually these.

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Keguang He: I have a demo under to show this the demo once when summit or authentic F meeting.

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Keguang He: and And we also hope more people can join this. Requirements. With us together. Okay, that's all about.

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Keguang He: My introduction. Thank you.

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Kenny Paul: Any questions.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Okay. Sorry. I have a question. I was on mute.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: So there is one for ran and ran, transport, cloud and core. Okay.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: so is there an objective on the right side to to look at what Oran is doing, or or this is more

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: concept and interface-based

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Keguang He: for run, and at present we didn't.

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Keguang He: do some worker with Ryan to the manager. So as those worker are to be added and maybe in the first release available folks. okay.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: What's can you at a high level? What's an example of? I mean, you need data to to develop an Llm.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: What kind of data would be used for

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Keguang He: I yeah. Because for Nefield in release one, they have a

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: they have some user keys

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Keguang He: like Upi up and smf!

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Keguang He: oh, smf! And

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Keguang He: is this? You can deploy up and smf automatically.

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Keguang He: So I think. As the date, the the teach

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Keguang He: or or some other performance performance. Performance, data and and the source layer those data?

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Keguang He: northbound interface.

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Keguang He: deployment under configuration about

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Keguang He: This is the

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Okay? So so the so, the action being taken.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Based on the intent is. I think it's it's more about deployment.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: maybe multiple instances or redeployment. It's that kind of

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: optimizing while it is operating.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Is that correct to say.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Okay, okay, you're right, nephew is more more on the provisioning deployment rather than okay.

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