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2024 TSC Recordings	2023 TSC Decisions	Anti-Trust Policy

We will start our meetings by mentioning the project's Antitrust Policy, which you can find linked from the LF and project websites. The policy is important where multiple companies, including potential industry competitors, are participating in meetings. Please review and if you have any questions, please contact your company legal counsel. Members of the LF may contact Andrew Updegrove at the firm Gesmer Updegrove LLP, which provides legal counsel to the LF.

Attended	Proxy (w/ @name)	Holiday	Did Not Attend

Attendance is taken purely upon #info in Zoom Chat

Andreas Geißler	DT	Keguang He	China Mobile
Byung-Woo Jun	Ericsson	N.K. Shankaranarayanan	Individual
Dan Timoney	AT&T	Paweł Pawlak	Incognito
Dan Xu	Huawei	Seshu Kumar Mudiganti	Windriver
Dong Wang	China Telecom

	Agenda Items	Presented By	Presos/Notes/Links/
Strategy (45 minutes)	ONAP takeaways		We are encouraging ONAP consumers to share with us their feedback, so we could prioritize our activities and make ONAP better suited their needs and requirements.
	LFN Cross-Organization Updates MAC, SPC, TAC, EUAG, LFN Board
	TCC / ONAP Liaison Updates
	Task Force Updates


Operations (40 minutes)	TSC Activities and Deadlines
	ONAP lab is unavailable	Lincoln Lavoie	There is currently an issue with the ONAP lab infrastructure hosted by the UNH-IOL that they are working on troubleshooting with WindRiver. They wanted to let the ONAP community know they are aware of the issue and request some time at next week's (April 11) TSC meeting to provide an update or proposed resolution for the issue.
	Release Status	Byung-Woo Jun	Update project status: PTLs started updating project status, key updates and benefits. Thanks! Project Status in New Delhi Release. The PTL list is updated. Project Status in New Delhi Release - ongoing PTLs - Please update New Delhi Release Key Updates - please add the associated Jira tickets Andreas Geißler , updated the infrastructure improvements section Byung-Woo Jun , added the Release Planning: Oslo (for now, it is a draft).
	RelEng/Infrastructure		Thomas Kulik "Old" LFX Insights Statistics about ONAP are ending October 2023 (Link). What is the reason? Thomas Kulik "New" LFX Insights Statistics does not show ONAP at all?! (Link) Thomas Kulik onap.org still shows the "London" release. We need some improvements on updating this page after a new ONAP release has been published. Sandra Jackson (Deactivated) create ticket to get ONAP.org website updated to Montreal release.
	PTL Updates		Fix (Python dependency specification) needs to be done on every project side. check with Thomas Kulik Matt shared documentation patches (verification failures needs to be fixed): https://gerrit.onap.org/r/q/owner:thomas.kulik%2540telekom.de+-status:abandoned+-status:merged Ticket to be opened by Thomas Kulik - those repositories have no owners which blocks Documentation projects Archiving old projects at the TSC level - next TSC meeting Paweł Pawlak Project list for archive to be provided by Andreas Geißler for TSC review and tentative vote 4/11: New Delhi Release Key Updates
	OOM New Delhi Release Subcommittee Updates Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements		OOM: DMaaP MR deprecation Update: for the unmaintained component
Events & Meetings (5 minutes)	Upcoming Events & Housekeeping		ONE Summit : the session agenda for ONE Summit 2024 has been published, https://events.linuxfoundation.org/one-summit-north-america/program/schedule/ . APRIL 29 - MAY 1, 2024 \| IN-PERSON LFN DTF May 2-3 following ONE Summit need to find programming committee members to proceed need to add presentation topics, https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/2024-05+LFN+Developer+Event+Sessions

Zoom Chat Log

00:02:02 Byung-Woo Jun: I can attend this meeting for the first 40 mins. FYI
00:23:33 Andreas Geissler: https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/New+Delhi+Release+Key+Updates?src=contextnavpagetreemode
00:23:45 Andreas Geissler: https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/OOM+New+Delhi+Release

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Sandra Jackson: Hello!

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi Sandra.

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Thomas Kulik: Hi Sandra.

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Tony Hansen: Sandy.

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Tony Hansen: for updating the badging.

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Tony Hansen: Sanda? You're muted.

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Sandra Jackson: Sandy is throwing me off. It's Sandra. Who was that?

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Sandra Jackson: I did? I didn't. Who who am I talking to?

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Tony Hansen: Tony Hansen.

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Sandra Jackson: Hey, Tony?

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Sandra Jackson: yeah. I looked at it. But I did. I need to probably connect with you on the back end because I didn't dig in dig into it.

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Sandra Jackson: But yes, I did see the email. I thought, I replied, and I apologize. If I didn't.

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Tony Hansen: No, I didn't see a reply. That's fine.

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Sandra Jackson: And okay.

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Tony Hansen: Oh, okay, maybe we can set up a working session. And

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Tony Hansen: yeah, probably not this week or next week. But the following week.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay.

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Sandra Jackson: let me know your availability, and I put something. I'll schedule something.

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Tony Hansen: Alrighty. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So project sales in Jerry is ongoing. And Andreas keep adding it, and I pto added some more Jira tickets. This, which is optional, and that's fine. And then, as I think the Andrews updated the infrastructure improvement section. I think he can share you know, for om update below.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And also, I added, release planning Oslo Page, Wiki Page. It just started, and then I'm going to add some. I put the picture there, Oslo.

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Byung-Woo Jun: but if you don't like it you can change it, but for now I can you click that one release planning also? Look.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay. I was looking to see if anyone was on here from Lfit. But as far as I know, Thomas.

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Sandra Jackson: So the old insights. It stops at October because they are working on version 3. I believe it is of insights and trying to get everything loaded from Lf networking onto that. So they're they're kind of in between. And I'm not sure what the holdup is of getting everything moved from the or getting everything into the newer version of insights. But th, but this is why, so they're aware of it, and I know that they are working on it on the back end

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Byung-Woo Jun: Can you update it? Kenny said. He's updated. But yeah, we have to double check. Let me see, what's the current one.

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Sandra Jackson: I'll I'll show.

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Sandra Jackson: You said. It's showing Montreal.

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Thomas Kulik: Phoebe.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Mary the Wiki dot owner, yg.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, got it. Okay. So.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they stay showing their under. Yeah, Tom Thomas was correct. So we need to change the image view for this.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay.

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Sandra Jackson: Let's see.

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Sandra Jackson: No, I'm taking the action to put a ticket in to get the get it updated. I just need.

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Sandra Jackson: I'd like thankful.

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Byung-Woo Jun: To for own app, not the wiki. Ask them, can you only change the wiki dot own app?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay.

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Sandra Jackson: thank you.

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Thomas Kulik: Thank you.

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Sandra Jackson: Oh, and that's why I said website. But I could say onet.org

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Jessica Wagantall: Hey! Good morning!

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Sandra Jackson: I don't know if you have information on this, but Thomas was speaking about cause. I know you're part of the relent team, and I don't know how much how involved you are with like the Lfx. Insights. So I explained to him that we do know that it's an issue, because the Lf networking projects are not showing in the new version of insights.

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Jessica Wagantall: How do you call it? Umbrella basis? Kind of thing? And I know that they were discontinuing v. 2. But I I forgot. When was it gonna be the deadline for that to happen? I can find out more information on when Lfn is gonna be fully migrated and let you know.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, good. That works so that I can provide an update next week. Alright, thanks.

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Sandra Jackson: following the event of that week. So April 20, ninth to May first is the one summit, and then the Dntf is May second and third?

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Sandra Jackson: All right. Are there any other questions or comments.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Hi, I just have an update on the D map. Duplication on policy framework to Andreas. Quickly. We have done the changes on the policy framework and chat in oem. But we are facing a issue with the one component in policy, which is a dual speed where the connection is getting disconnected with Kafka.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: The problem is in oem. All the components are using

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: security protocol and login mechanism to communicate with the Stimzi Kafka, but for this particular component, even though we configured them in the helm, chat

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: internally, the application is not using them when it is connecting with the stemsy Kafka. So because of this reason, it keeps getting disconnected. And in the gating we see the health check fails so to currently to unblock this issue for the other components in policy, is it? Okay? We comment out this sub chart in the policy and merge the changes for the other components.

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Andreas Geissler: Of course, you can never do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Yeah, and we could borrow some more time to investigate this. And probably it seems like we may need to do some code changes in the application level to make it work with the Simcaf. For this Joel's Pdp.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Second.

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Andreas Geissler: Yeah.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Okay.

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Andreas Geissler: No issue to that. And that's up to you, I mean, I think it's important that we get. Let's say, continue with that that we get the D map changes as as far as we can or the message would remove parts as far as we can, and then you can, of course, disable it and then work on this part further. Nope, no issue.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Okay, perfect thanks, Andreas. Thank you.

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Andreas Geissler: You're welcome.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, thank you.

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Sandra Jackson: Paul. Do you have any last minute comments.

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Paweł Pawlak: No, to be honest.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you very much, guys.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you. Have a wonderful rest of today and talk to you next week.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Gotcha bye, bye.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Bye, bye. Thank you.

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Paweł Pawlak: May!

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Sandra Jackson: You all have a good.

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Toine Siebelink: Buddy. By the way.

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