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2024 TSC Recordings	2023 TSC Decisions	Anti-Trust Policy

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Andreas Geißler	DT	Keguang He	China Mobile
Byung-Woo Jun	Ericsson	N.K. Shankaranarayanan	Individual
Dan Timoney	AT&T	Paweł Pawlak	Incognito
Dan Xu	Huawei	Seshu Kumar Mudiganti	Windriver
Dong Wang	China Telecom

	Agenda Items	Presented By	Presos/Notes/Links/
Strategy (45 minutes)	ONAP takeaways		We are encouraging ONAP consumers to share with us their feedback, so we could prioritize our activities and make ONAP better suited their needs and requirements.
	LFN Cross-Organization Updates MAC, SPC, TAC, EUAG, LFN Board
	TCC / ONAP Liaison Updates
	Task Force Updates


Operations (40 minutes)	TSC Activities and Deadlines	Paweł Pawlak Byung-Woo Jun Dong Wang Keguang He	Initial discussion with Pawel, Dong, Keguang and Byung for ONAP focus areas and roadmaps - for a LFN DTF presentation preparation The first phase of ONAP Streamlining is being done. Next steps would be: Lightweight ONAP under consideration by aggregating core components, e.g., SO, SDC, Policy, CPS, UUI, DCAE, SDNC based on use cases. Component interface normalization / standardization as needed. onap.org page needs to be update-to-dated, putting Montreal release
	Release Status	Byung-Woo Jun Andreas Geißler	Byung-Woo Jun , Update project status: PTLs started updating project status, key updates and benefits. Thanks! Project Status in New Delhi Release. The PTL list is updated. Project Status in New Delhi Release - ongoing PTLs - Please update New Delhi Release Key Updates - please add the associated Jira tickets Byung-Woo Jun , added the Release Planning: Oslo (for now, it is a draft). Project status for New Dehli and versioning Dan Xu , confirmed that CLI and VNFSDK are not active and it is ok to mark them as deprecated. Andreas Geißler , confirmed there are no dependencies of CLI and VNFSDK. Byung-Woo Jun , TSC needs to go thru their deprecation processes. TSC voting for unmaintained project deprecation after going thru the list from Andreas.
	RelEng/Infrastructure	Jessica Gonzalez Thomas Kulik	Onboard ONAP to CM / Insights v3 onap.org still shows the "London" release. We need some improvements on updating this page after a new ONAP release has been published. For now, update it to Montreal. Who can update this page? Sandra Jackson (Deactivated) created a ticket, update in progress.
	PTL Updates	Thomas Kulik Andreas Geißler	Documentation work in progress by Thomas and Andreas. Any update?
	PTL Updates	Fiete Ostkamp Paweł Pawlak	Recommended packages upgrades are available on the restricted Wiki. Jiras are created per project. New Delhi Package Updates Need to check NG Portal status CLM jobs. Any update? Jessica Gonzalez , ongoing. Fiete Ostkamp to provide an update about implementation progress. Update from Fiete Ostkamp : maven based jobs use the lf-infra-sonatype-clm Jenkins builder that triggers the com.sonatype.clm:clm-maven-plugin for gradle there currently is no such builder available in global-jjb Sonatype officially does not provide an equivalent plugin, but there is the Sonatype Scan Gradle Plugin that could provide similar functionality Ticket opened by Fiete: https://jira.linuxfoundation.org/plugins/servlet/desk/portal/2/IT-26527 ongoing; Jessica and Fiete are discussing this.
	Subcommittee Updates Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements	Byung-Woo Jun	preparing architecture enhancement plans for Oslo for LFN DTF presentation, based on the TSC initiative consideration. e.g., Lightweight ONAP architecture
	Subcommittee Updates Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements	Paweł Pawlak	package upgrade progress Muddasar Ahmed , working on security presentation LFN DTF, the review is ongoing in SECCOM
	OOM Update	Andreas Geißler	OOM Update for New Delhi; master versioning and project helm chart versioning decoupling and others.
Events & Meetings (5 minutes)	Upcoming Events & Housekeeping	Byung-Woo Jun	ONE Summit : the session agenda for ONE Summit 2024 has been published, https://events.linuxfoundation.org/one-summit-north-america/program/schedule/ . APRIL 29 - MAY 1, 2024 \| IN-PERSON LFN DTF May 2-3 following ONE Summit ONAP programming committee member: Byung-Woo Jun deadline for topic submission is April 12th. The committee members will discuss the LFN DTF schedule based on the finalized topics next Monday need to add presentation topics, https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/2024-05+LFN+Developer+Event+Sessions

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Sandra Jackson: Good morning. Hello! Good day.

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Lincoln Lavoie (UNH-IOL): Hey, Sandra, there was gonna be just a quick update

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Lincoln Lavoie (UNH-IOL): Unhapp lab from Steven. And I, just because there was some issues that occurred in the lab.

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Lincoln Lavoie (UNH-IOL): that we had to request a quick slot, and I know Steven only has, I think, the first 15 min of this call.

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Stephen Gooch: Yeah, that's true. I have a customer meeting. I have to jump to.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, so let's start with with this topic. First.

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Stephen Gooch: Okay. Great. This is Stephen Gooch from Wind River.

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Stephen Gooch: as as some of you or some of you may not know.

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Stephen Gooch: and I've been working with Lincoln on that, since in 2,002, Lincoln runs most of the the interactions with the community, actually, the accounts and and and stuff. And and I've worked in the background on it.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: This sounded very interesting, but it's so. It's like getting away from native openstack and running it on a Kubernetes cluster. Is that the sense

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Thanks, and he's there.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, seeing none. Thank you guys for sharing with us and joining this session.

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Paweł Pawlak: So we'll be waiting for your update for tomorrow end of business.

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Stephen Gooch: Sounds great, and I'm gonna drop now that you guys get back on with your regularly scheduled business.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright, as Steven said. Back to our regular program. Do we want to jump into the Tsc activities and deadlines.

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Sandra Jackson: That is, that's correct. It's still point. It's in progress. And actually, this, this agenda item is on here. Twice I put the update down here. I did create a ticket out, move it?

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Jessica Wagantall: prepare the migration for maven verify? We tested maven verify, and it works fine. It it's a little bit again. It's a little bit of a hard process, because, there's no easy way to automate this transition. Unfortunately, because each component, and each repo has their own maven.

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Jessica Wagantall: Yeah, usually. I mean, we're we're focusing on Oram because it's a smaller project. But

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Jessica Wagantall: few things like, for example, scheduled jobs like Sonar Clm. We were trying to focus those in parallel between Ownup and and Oran and in the meantime Kevin expressed interesting helping us out. So since we tested Maven he wanted to help out migrating the Maven jobs.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you, Jess, guys any questions to to Jessica

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Paweł Pawlak: and other items we should cover with.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, so let's move on.

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Jessica Wagantall: Thank you. Thank you. Sandra.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you, Jess.

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Sandra Jackson: Thank you. Jessica.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Andrew, you can you share your screen? Since you're.

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Sandra Jackson: Yup I can share now I got it back. Just don't ask me edits. I think that's how I broke it. In the first place.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah. Okay, good. Okay. Up to you.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, hold on. Let me

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Byung-Woo Jun: So.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay. Now let me share.

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Sandra Jackson: Here we go. Can you see my screen.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I get.

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Sandra Jackson: No, okay, let me try it again. Hold on

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Sandra Jackson: Share.

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Sandra Jackson: You know. Are you saying.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, yeah, we can see.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, good.

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Sandra Jackson: Thank you. Okay. So ptl updates, well, I don't. Oh, okay.

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Sandra Jackson: yeah. So it's Thomas. Let me see, am I on the right one. Yeah, I am okay.

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Sandra Jackson: Ptl updates, documentation work in progress is Thomas on.

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Byung-Woo Jun: See ya.

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Thomas Kulik: Yep, I'm on.

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Sandra Jackson: Did you have any?

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Thomas Kulik: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we we fixed a remaining patches successfully.

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Thomas Kulik: So there's only one left we we cannot fix. But this belongs to a project that

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Thomas Kulik: is planned to be removed from the new daily release by Andrea. So it doesn't matter. So so the remaining patches are all through ma, mainly.

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Paweł Pawlak: Good news. Thank you, Thomas. Thank you for

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Paweł Pawlak: for progress here.

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Thomas Kulik: You will come.

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Sandra Jackson: Thank you, Alderman.

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Thomas Kulik: And I'll also had a discussion with Peter about the portal and G documentation.

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Thomas Kulik: I'm not sure if we will have it for the

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Thomas Kulik: new daily release. But we definitely are on this topic.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, thank you for that. Update, Pablo. Did you have anything else? Or.

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Paweł Pawlak: No!

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, I just saw your name there. So, and he kind of

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Sandra Jackson: Foul!

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Sandra Jackson: Do we move on to hold on, do we have need to check into our portal?

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Sandra Jackson: Do we already talk about this? Or is this something different? Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: We we talk about. I think.

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Sandra Jackson: Says, one.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Section ongoing. Just computer discussing this still ongoing. I think.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay?

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Sandra Jackson: And so then we'll move down to subcommittee updates.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So I'm preparing some enhancement plan for Oslo and for Alf and Ptf presentation.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Based on the ont initiative consideration. The valuable input from Don Juan and Kevin and Abo.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So see me. So how are we, gonna you know, make some

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Byung-Woo Jun: individual component on extreme mining. That's the one that's quick update. So once I formulate Sergeant slide deck, I'm gonna share with you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, that's back to you.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright. Thank you. Bayl.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, moving down to package upgrade. Progress. Do we have anything to say about it, Popul?

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Sandra Jackson: And if you're speaking, yeah.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, yeah, we do. In fact, the progress is

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Paweł Pawlak: very low. So we we track it every month, and and we see almost no progress.

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Paweł Pawlak: So this is just a comment that

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Paweł Pawlak: you know, the quality of of software we are delivering is is dependent on, you know.

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Paweł Pawlak: making those checks and and doing those upgrades.

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Paweł Pawlak: I'm

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Paweł Pawlak: all those jurors are created per project, but we don't see

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Paweł Pawlak: specific efforts on on the project sites to

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Paweł Pawlak: move on with with upgrades. I hope this is something that that is planned

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Paweł Pawlak: and simply was not yet executed.

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Paweł Pawlak: The

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Paweł Pawlak: the percentage of

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Paweł Pawlak: This is the comment from second.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Pawel on. Did any ask about the

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Byung-Woo Jun: Kick rock? Officially? It's a part of the on app

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Byung-Woo Jun: reference implementation. So I think she collected the version number of the kicker. Is that right?

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, I think so. If not, then we can. We can address it during the upcoming second on Tuesday, right?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, I think she asked the questions last time.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: back to you. Sandra.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, thank you, Pablo.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright.

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Sandra Jackson: Oh, OM. Update.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Let me assist, since Andrew is not here, let me give you some highlight not everything, but I think he's going to give more detail, for when but one of the main main achievement, one of the one of them. And so now, master marketing, poisoning

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Byung-Woo Jun: decouple from project, helmet poisoning. So, Thomas critic. And then we talk about at the Pta 2, so based based on that, the capability. Now the

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Byung-Woo Jun: the each component. They have a flexibility. They don't have to follow the marketing or slash and master versioning, for example, the new Daily. So if there's no component changes, and then or some components are not active, they still have 13 the major version, which is okay. Now, because Angus support this flexibility.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So then, umbrella chart, the word can point any number of the Harlem Chat version, the the each of the each project. So Pto decide. They wanna stay the same master version. That's fine before the new daily everyone has to upgrade to 4 time 14 as a master, but from New Delhi. Thanks to Om team, we don't have to. That's the kind of you know I can provide. So I think next week

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Byung-Woo Jun: Andrews can give more detail about away.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, back to.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright, thank you.

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Sandra Jackson: And then that brings us to the end here, which is our housekeeping, our housekeeping items. So again, thank you, bayon, for stepping up to represent the own app committee upcoming on app community on the Dntf

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Sandra Jackson: Planning committee.

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Sandra Jackson: I believe an email went out earlier this week that.

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Sandra Jackson: That said that they were thinking of cancelling the second day of the Dntf.

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Sandra Jackson: so again, the deadline to get your

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Sandra Jackson: is approaching, I think, isn't it? Tomorrow? What's disabled? Yeah, it's tomorrow.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Toby to always tomorrow. So deadline, so.

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Sandra Jackson: Yeah, so so please, if you have any topics again, your your presentation doesn't have to be complete. But if you want your topic to make the schedule go ahead and get those in and register

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Sandra Jackson: register for for the

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Sandra Jackson: the event.

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Sandra Jackson: I think that's all I have. Pablo.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So once, you know. So this Monday, every Monday programming committee they have a meeting. So I participate in. And then we talk about the the elephant and the Dtf scheduling. So, as Sandra said, tomorrow is the deadline.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and also the

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Byung-Woo Jun: Casey said, the registration is very low. So it's possible they gonna shorten

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Byung-Woo Jun: one day. But anyway, so

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Byung-Woo Jun: you know, based on the registration rate, by tomorrow.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So they're gonna we next Monday we're gonna discuss to schedule the one challenge that we have is possible on

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Byung-Woo Jun: Elefm. Decide not to allow the remote presentation, which is, you know, I I I I protest it, you know, putting back the remote presentation. But that's already side by Elefn high level

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Byung-Woo Jun: meetings. I couldn't handle

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Byung-Woo Jun: David rejected. So that's why, with this time is in person. But the next time we have to the discuss with the elephant team you know how we gonna make more presentation audiences. Right? So that's the one you know. Topic. So second challenge is

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Byung-Woo Jun: on the Thursday, May second, on Thursday, first day of the 11 Dtf. Day.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Nephew has a whole day sessions

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Byung-Woo Jun: so, and probing, you know, committee members today in from the nephew has whole day on the

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Byung-Woo Jun: you know, meeting. So it's possible it's kind of a competing each other, you know, elephant. And then, nephew, we we are the same under the same elephant, but the only nephew and others. So that's another one. If you, we losing one, if we lose one day, then it will be the the day schedule will be tight.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then also that's why, if you have any, you know this section the presentation topic, please put it in the Wiki page by tomorrow, then. So I have a more. You know, the

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Byung-Woo Jun: I can schedule. I can put this much. So okay, that's the input so I'll let you know. After next Monday meeting I'll give you some scheduling information

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Byung-Woo Jun: for you. Next Thursday. Okay, that's it.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright, thank you. Bayon

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Sandra Jackson: before we close out any other comments from Pablo, or cake on, or actually did I see cake on and dialing on.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hang on, and don't worry, don't want to.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, any anything from you guys.

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Keguang He: I have nothing to add. Thank you.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, no worries.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright. Well, if there is nothing else I will see you all

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Sandra Jackson: next week.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, thank, you.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you. Bye, bye.

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Keguang He: You, bye, bye.

Agenda Items

ONAP takeaways

LFN Cross-Organization Updates

TCC / ONAP Liaison Updates

Task Force Updates

TSC Activities and Deadlines

Release Status

RelEng/Infrastructure

PTL Updates

PTL Updates

Subcommittee Updates

Subcommittee Updates

OOM Update

Upcoming Events & Housekeeping

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