TSC 2024-01-25

TSC 2024-01-25

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@Andreas Geißler

DT



@Keguang He 

China Mobile

@Byung-Woo Jun 

Ericsson



@N.K. Shankaranarayanan 

Individual

@Dan Timoney 

AT&T



@Paweł Pawlak 

Incognito

@Dan Xu 

Huawei



@Seshu Kumar Mudiganti

Windriver

@Dong Wang

China Telecom









Agenda Items

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Agenda Items

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Strategy (45 minutes)

ONAP takeaways



We are encouraging ONAP consumers to share with us their feedback, so we could prioritize our activities and make ONAP better suited their needs and requirements.

LFN Cross-Organization Updates

MAC, SPC, TAC, EUAG, LFN Board

@Andreas Geißler  @N.K. Shankaranarayanan @Byung-Woo Jun

ONAP and O-RAN SC collaboration: 

TCC / ONAP Liaison Updates

 @Amy Zwarico @Byung-Woo Jun 

  • SECCOM: Announcement for ONAP releases prior to London:

    • All ONAP releases prior to London are broken because AAF certificate is expired. Users should select London+.

    • Action Point:

Task Force Updates

















Operations (40 minutes)



TSC Activities and Deadlines





Release Status

@Byung-Woo Jun 

RelEng/Infrastructure





PTL Updates

@Byung-Woo Jun 

  • Shared the OOM Helm chart versioning plan for New Delhi with PTLs. OOM (Andreas Geissler) provides Helm chart versioning flexibilities to projects, by following ONAP Streamlining. For more details, PTL 2024-01-22

  • Rotating hosts for the PTL meeting are needed. 

Subcommittee Updates

Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements

@Byung-Woo Jun 









@Andreas Geißler 



@Amy Zwarico 

  • ARCCOM: Huawei (Guanyu Zhu) and CMCC (Keguang He) presented the requirement and architecture for the 'Incident API requirements in R14', 1) collecting incidents from network, 2) analyzing and aggregating based on AI and others and 3) providing uniform and consolidated incident reports. ARCCOM approved this.



  • OOM: Tata Communication (Mateusz) installed ONAP Montreal/London and made improvements

    • Security enhancements (e.g., Keycloak/OAuthProxy, AuthorizationPolicy...), Logging enhancements

    • OOM Meeting Notes - 2024-01-24

    • OOM plans to make OOM enhancements including Tata input to New Delhi (TBD)



Events & Meetings

(5 minutes)

Upcoming Events & Housekeeping



Zoom Chat Log 




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Byung-Woo Jun: Hello, Dong Wong! How are you?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi, Biel? I'm good. How are you? Good! Can you hear? Can you see my screen?

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Dong Wang (China Telecom): Yes, yes, I can see it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, let's wait.

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Dong Wang (China Telecom): Okay, yeah, that's the weight of your second.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, okay, thank you. And I'm mute.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi andres.

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Andreas Geissler: Hi, I hope you can see my screen, too.

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Andreas Geissler: Yes, I can. That's good.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I think the Kenny and Sandra in training was submitting today. So they're gonna start joining from next week. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: nice. Wait.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi, Shankar, I liam.

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Byung-Woo Jun: hey? Let's wait one more minute, and then we're gonna start. Maybe some more people.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi, Thomas.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I we can

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Byung-Woo Jun: stop Sandra

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Byung-Woo Jun: and Kenny. They are in some meetings or training, so they told us they cannot attend this meeting so.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and Donwong, Kaguan and Mars said, we are going to host meeting today. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: as a start, I so this is january 20 fifth Tsc. Year, 2,024. I'm going to start our meeting, and then don't want and Kegwan please the.

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Byung-Woo Jun: you know, jump in any time you want to,

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Byung-Woo Jun: update. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: Andrews. So this agenda is 11 cross organization update. We are talking about briefly about own sc collaboration. I see Nk. Shanku I mentioned. But there is some follow up and between Orange and OMT. And Andress can. Briefly,

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Byung-Woo Jun: you know. Talk about this and

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Byung-Woo Jun: Tsc. I'm not sure any going to join today? At the second we want to

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Byung-Woo Jun: make announcements for onap

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Byung-Woo Jun: releases prior to London and saying all on it.

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releases prior to London are broken

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Byung-Woo Jun: because aaf certificate is

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Byung-Woo Jun: expired. So you just should select London, plus. That's the kind of the current announcement we want to propose. So we need to some agreement from Tsc member today.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Then we are going to change documentation and other Wikis release notes based on that

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Byung-Woo Jun: and release status I'm going to share briefly about the project status in new daily releases. And I sent email to Ptl for the key updates benefit

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Byung-Woo Jun: and the Pt update. I'm gonna share a brief debrief to what happened this Monday. Not much. And and also we're gonna report our com and oem and the

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Byung-Woo Jun: second dates.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then there's some updated.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and the event coming

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Byung-Woo Jun: on on any summit is scheduled and the session topic agenda

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Byung-Woo Jun: has been published.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and also Kenny confirmed elephant Dtf. Will follow when he summit. I think it will be same time like last year, and May second and third. So that's the basic agenda. If you have any any additional agenda, just let me know, and let's start from the beginning.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So there's some collaboration as Nk. Shankar mentioned last week. and James Lee, and then Luis from Orn, Sc. Team contact OM. And others.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and they share their their presentation slide deck. How they gonna wants to use the

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Byung-Woo Jun: on it. And Andres, do you have any update for this? You want to and talk about briefly about this?

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Andreas Geissler: Yeah, I don't know that the the presentation, and wanted actually, and this week to go

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Andreas Geissler: through the slides to give some comments or some feedback to

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Andreas Geissler: the let's say, conclusions and the changes which would propose and and we're done so we. Unfortunately, as some colleagues from Tata wanted to present their enhancements, or they change changes and questions, and even want to. Let's say, contribute to OM. We postpone this discussion, maybe to next week.

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Andreas Geissler: But in the meantime we will. I will definitely go through the slides and make some notes so that we have. let's say some let's say, Pre, that I have some some pre notes here. What would be done? Or what is the plan? For example, here? Yeah. So there is a plan to deprecate the the message.

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Andreas Geissler: So that's something what? Of course we can. We can stay. And all of these these other

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Andreas Geissler: thoughts. Yeah. yeah. So I will definitely give that a feedback or collect this feedback, and then we can go next week

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Andreas Geissler: in the Om meeting through my notes, and then, maybe, if others would have some other notes from our team, that would do, we conclude that and and give that back to Louise

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Andreas Geissler: or James Lee so, and that, that will be done. Yup. And

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Byung-Woo Jun: to make some kind of conclusion out of that. Sure, thank you, Andreas, I think you know, maybe next week we can work something from all an Sc team.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: And as Andress mentioned about Tata communication. Yeah, yeah, just just a comment to Andreas and yourself.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan:  when you look, look at the presentation and look at the questions from Louise. Just keep in mind. If if

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: if you think that is a good

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: sort of reference implementation or default method of using own app and OS components for for the Smo.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: because that's the discussion is going in that direction. And

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: and I would be interested in. If if you think, for example.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: you might have one conclusion, saying, This is the right thing to do, let him do it, and we'll make that the standard implementation for other people to follow. or he might come to a conclusion, saying, what he's doing is right. But

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: there are other ways of doing it. And so there are multiple options. And so it it'll it will be good to know which way you are thinking that that's the plan. We you know, when we have a meeting with the at the Oem team we test. We gonna discuss about that. We're gonna review the their presentation side.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And good thing I found from the slide deck his state. I think that they are moving on to latest on it, frozen because we they had experience with the aaf

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Byung-Woo Jun: aaf under certificate. So they, we convince them to to move on to London, plus. So I think the one of the slides that they are doing it. And also, yeah. Also, I think they interest me. Select us. You know

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Byung-Woo Jun: the select own app functions, not every owner platform that's a good thing, and conforming to streamlining. And not only the Orient team. We're gonna talk about more tata communication.

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Byung-Woo Jun: They are interested in taking some of the owner function. That's a good thing. So Andro's team already supporting the individual project in selection based on the owners streamlining. So I think there's good synergy between owner and the orange and the Tata communication. So anyway, we're not talking about. So, okay, that's the thing.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Andrews, do you have any additional comments? Well, we're gonna move on.

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Andreas Geissler: No, you can move on. That's fine.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Thank you. Desk. Update any question. Stop us.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And Amy is not here today. So second

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Byung-Woo Jun: we are. We have some discussion this week, and so we know

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Byung-Woo Jun: aaf certificate ex expired. And then so we need to tell our customers, and then some participant companies. We need to tell them, all owner releases prior to London are broken because of the af certificate issues.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So they should select. You know, London plus. So is that okay, to send this announcement to public. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: you know, I like to get some content from Tsc, any objection. Yeah, I'm not sure we're gonna do both, because not enough. But

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Byung-Woo Jun: do you have any objection telling the customer we're going to go this path

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Andreas Geissler: if you have any objection just wanted me on that. I fully agree with that to do that.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, so great

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Byung-Woo Jun: and so this is action point. And then tsc documentation. Thomas, I'm not sure what which document section you need to put that in. And then I'm going to change outcome and also walking with Pablo and Dongwong and Kegwan. We're gonna push some Tsc, Wiki and some release notes. We're gonna announce that. So when

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Byung-Woo Jun: they customer look at the own app, and they try to download the own app function. They should know they should select the London plus. Okay, this is kinda done. We're gonna do this. And we're gonna talk separately about how you gonna publish this on it, Wiki? And then

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Byung-Woo Jun: Rtd, Thomas, okay, so, Thomas, do you have any suggestion here?

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Thomas Kulik: Yeah, just thinking about it. But definitely, put it in the we should put it in the release note in the the composite release note of Umhm

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Thomas Kulik: of the the latest release. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: yeah, that's the.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then I look at the David Mcbride previous release note. And then I'm gonna squeeze him. And then I'm gonna talk to you before we publish it. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: okay, 2 down. And I'm gonna share this project. Status.

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Byung-Woo Jun: okay, this is what we created. I actually, I created copying the David Mcbride. And then we are trying to update the update this page related information. So anything I,

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Byung-Woo Jun: and you know, change the orange, you know. So service design. Sdc, we don't have active Pta any longer. Vfc. And the unhong, she confirmed. She's not Pta any longer.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So we're not sure. And then so, Thomas, we have a project lead for some of the components, even though they don't have a ptl, but they have a stay, active commuters. So the project is the active. So, okay, we, we have a separate column for New Delhi, and this project is active, even though, we don't have. Ptl, so this is the additional column we're gonna indicate. So this is responsible for the Ptl.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then they have to update the Harlem Chart version, and they want to use for New Delhi.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And the good thing is Andrew's Om days is he supports flexibility on the Halem chat versioning. So, Pto, if you don't have any major changes, you don't have to change the major version so. But let Andrews knows about this.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Because she need to manage it to umbrella. Helen chat so that as as long as this of some communication between Andrews and the Pto. It should be fine. And then yes, it will be flexible, Andrews, you said, is that my understanding. Is that correct?

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Andreas Geissler: Yes, that's right, that's right.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So whatever you see. And whatever I get anyway, I know when there's a patch that I will anyway take into consideration for the updates. That's fine. I put the voluntary active. Ui. We know how this really active anyway, and project status new daily. This is the same thing and the key update.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So I can't take a few the ptos to update their feature putting key update benefits. So you know, Pto, please the

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Byung-Woo Jun: or the Tsc Inquis, Pto to put the information. I think. I ui! They were gonna put the the key benefit, you know, and then update 2 updates one from China mobile, one from China telecom. So this is kind of a changes. Okay?

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Byung-Woo Jun: So that's the one I'm back to here.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So Etl and the this week, just the we share the information about the how oem helm chart versioning, as you know, supported in the new daily. So we just share this new the plan and handling with the ptl.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so that's the good thing. So anyway, if you want to see more detail, you can go to this pages. But that's the basic updates. okay this week. So I think it's a good thing we have a burgeoning flexibility. So okay?

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, I have a question

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: we used to. We used to track the use case work

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: now it's become more autonomous. But there is still

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: activity going on. For example, the Sun use case. We are continuing.

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