TSC 2024-05-30
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Attended | Proxy (w/ @name) | Holiday | Did Not Attend |
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Attendance is taken purely upon #info in Zoom Chat
DT | China Mobile | |||
Ericsson | Individual | |||
AT&T | Individual | |||
Huawei | Windriver | |||
China Telecom |
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Strategy (45 minutes) | ONAP takeaways | We are encouraging ONAP consumers to share with us their feedback, so we could prioritize our activities and make ONAP better suited their needs and requirements. | |
LFN Cross-Organization UpdatesMAC, SPC, TAC, EUAG, LFN Board | |||
TCC / ONAP Liaison Updates | Keguang He | ONAP Liasion Report to ETSI NFV 46# | |
Task Force Updates | |||
Olso Focus Areas - from China Mobile | Keguang He | China Mobile will present their plans for intent-driven orchestration for autonomous Intent Driven Orchestration for Autonomous Networks Leveraging GenAI, Nephio & ONAP.pdf | |
Oslo Focus Areas - from China Telecom | Dong Wang | China Telecom will present their plans for research on OAM of next generation networks "Exploration on Orchestration and Management of 6G mobile networks based on ONAP architecture" | |
Operations (40 minutes) | TSC Activities and Deadlines | ||
Release Status | Byung-Woo Jun |
Oslo Release Planning: Oslo. (Kick off : May 30) | |
RelEng/Infrastructure |
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PTL Updates |
Ticket opened by Fiete: https://jira.linuxfoundation.org/plugins/servlet/desk/portal/2/IT-26527
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Subcommittee UpdatesArch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements |
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OOM Update |
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Events & Meetings (5 minutes) | Upcoming Events & Housekeeping |
Zoom Chat Log
00:04:05 Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): brb
00:28:06 Kevin Sandi (LF): https://gerrit.onap.org/r/c/ci-management/+/138096
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Good morning!
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Hi, Sandra!
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Good.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Alright.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): and you're seeing my screen right? The roll call.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yes, yes.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay, go on.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Hi syndrome. I've been.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): How are you? Alright.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Good. Thank you.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Alrighty are people on vacation.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Published on the holiday. So.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): How about a holiday?
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Yep.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): hmm!
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Not sure how many people are joined today.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Yeah, I was. Gonna say, Pablo is one. Where are the others?
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, and there is a holiday in the some country in Europe. So.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Orlandis and holidays, but
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I don't know what the country in Europe.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): And Jessica.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): are you.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Good morning!
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Alright, alright.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Matt, helping the keg ones. Team for the multi-factor authentication. So it's great.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Yes, thank you very much.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, not sure if I don't, while I'm gonna join Zen, you do.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Is there anything happening during this week? Is there an event going on.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Wh which event?
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Oh, no, I'm just wondering. I just came back from Video. So I'm not sure if anything is going on. So that that's why not many people are joining today. I I wasn't sure why.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, last you know. So some some European country on holiday today. So
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Yeah.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Why, that's why Power couldn't join.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and I'm sure I'm not sure but Germany
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): so Andreas Kislo and Matt
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Eric probably not. So. Yeah, maybe this one the week. Just wait.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I can. Yeah. So we'll see.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay. No. Sorry.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Looks like he's gonna have a short meeting.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay?
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Let's start, and then just quickly go over. And then, you know.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay. No worries.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): So just a regular reminders.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): That you're being that the meeting is being recorded, and that includes the chat
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): and our anti-trust policy. If there are any questions reach out to your company's legal counsel, or
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): if you're a mini member of Linux Foundation, reach out to Andrew up to grove of guess. Not up to grove that. Okay.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): and we'll jump into it.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): we don't have quorum, so I don't think we had any votes set for today. I don't remember.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No, no, last week. That's why Pablo wants to bought everything last week, because so he's not gonna be here today. So we are good. We are good today. So.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay. And then I don't know how much of this you want to cover, cause you're gonna have to repeat it next week. So but we'll we'll jump into it.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): So
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): do we want to go into the liaison updates?
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay, go on, or do we? Wanna.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Yeah, maybe maybe I can give you a quick introduction
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): audio materials.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Can can I show my desktop.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Sure. Hold on! Let me stop sharing.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Okay.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): It's all yours now.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Okay
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): as the the.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): It has that and I free a
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): 46 meeting will be heard next week.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and as euro for on app.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and we need to provide a reason report.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): So this is a
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): shortly in the report.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and in this slides first.st I 1st give an introduction about the
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and your 30 ear leaves
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and is it
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Chc, approved? Release candidate. And this is this is
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and really a
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): release. The plain year for a
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): a new deliveries. And this is the link for the new deliveries.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Second.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): we archive introduction about the links from the
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): I haven't developed under testing Forum
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and Qa.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Very simple introduction about this meeting, and also list all the
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Sessions related to own app
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): here, and it gives a
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): give all the links.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): If they are interested in those sessions they can present in
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): from these links
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): right and the massive feature, and this material and this content is copied from brilliant slides.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): And this is about auto loop.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Release schedule and fox.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): and
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): yeah, that's all for these.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good. I'm just to comment new daily. And then new dairy sign of day is changed. Maybe you can use a different.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): paragraph.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Gandhi chat.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): yeah. Yeah. Previous one.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Previous. You can probably copy, you know. You can take copy and paste into here.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, Nope, you're okay.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Okay.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): But this is the old, old one, because and during.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Yeah. Yeah.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I'm not sure you're gonna change with Dtf, but you can comment. Dt, at that time it was the date.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): But maybe yeah, yeah, now is current date is the 23.rd And yeah, 6, 13. So yeah, probably that's better. I could.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Okay. Okay, thank you very much.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Yeah, yeah, that's all for this.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): A contribution. Thank you. Thank you.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Oh, no. Let me stop sharing. Okay.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay. If you can share your slide deck, then it would be nice
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): with this.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): You gonna do it next week. Right? You said.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): I was in.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Yeah, yeah, mainly. Okay.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): I will upload the next week after.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yes, sure, that's that's better. Yeah. Okay.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Okay.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Sorry. Let me go back
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): to here we go.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay. Thank you. Ca, go on.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): and sorry you have to repeat yourself for next week.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): did you wanna cover the also
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): focus areas as well? Or
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): think they did.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): The.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): They did. Yeah.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Give you.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And then he just to add, this new link. Okay? So I think he presented to Tsc before, and Don also did presentation
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and don't need to put the his document link. That's all.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Right. We just added that. So.
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Dong Wang (China Telecom): That they get online. Yeah.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, it. They. They only did.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay. So then we can move down to release status. And it looks like we had a a couple of more people join. So Hello.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): They on leave to the.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Can I? Can I share? Can I share? Okay.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): share, screen? It's easier for navigation. So
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): let me know if I see my screen. So.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): I can see your screen.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, so
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): milestone the status. We added more to
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): projects, cps, document and policy framework and portal Ng service orchestrator. I talked to Sesu and kept going. Thank you. And then, yeah, that's the current one and
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): ticket
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I just got confirmation from Dan Timoni, and there's not much Ccs SDK, initially, we saw the
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Let me go to key update key update. Here. The reason was
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): initially, we saw the
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Howe they do incident management framework applied to Ccsk. According to Dan.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): The code was not reviewed with the team, and then.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and so he think is no longer targeted for New Delhi. So unless Kuan, you
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): come to us. This is going to do call.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): But otherwise you're not gonna probably be the new daily. That's the current the recording. So this try to give you information. So I think that most of the Pto
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): so tcs, K, not nothing. This, we're gonna I'm gonna remove this one.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And then everything else is here
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): except the Sdn. C. So that's the only the
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): waiting for this. So
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I'm not sure. So anyway, I'm gonna make sure. I'm gonna contact Dan. It's going to put in New Delhi or his Nick. Take it out from New Delhi. So that's only remaining things from here other than that kind of one already. Put that and don't wanna put that so we are all here. So
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): okay, that's the my update this week. So and next week I'm gonna get confirmation with Dan about the Ccs as the C. Then we update
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): okay? And we talked to Pto, and they need to create the branch
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): for New Delhi. If there's a code changes, so they should create the branch and then put the the code book to master to New Delhi branch for finalization.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And so, if you have any problem let Sandra and myself know. And Jessica know. I think the keg one's team has some issue.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): We don't get it. I think the Matt is helping them. So
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): since we're using the multi-factor authentication, so they need a 1 time token one time token, one time, password, right token. So they have 2 way to do this, so hope to. Matthew
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): can help to keg one's team. So in time. So anyway, desk update, I'm going to stop share.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay? One. It's okay. The mad is helping you right, for now.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Yeah, yeah. I, I, I found them. Magic is helping us via email. And I send as a account under a a email address
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): to him, hoping
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And and CC. Jessica and myself, and also, if you needed the create, the new Daily Branch once the code is, you know, success to build and check in to the master. You can create the new daily branch, and then pretty much put the chatty pick to the new daily. So okay.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Okay. Thank you.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, that's about it.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Thank you, Dan.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): So I created them. I think it was yesterday.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): And I've updated them on the groups that I/O on the community calendar. So.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No, no, no, the this one like this Tsc and Pta, I. Actually, we don't need to use the host key because everyone can share. They'll ask the You know, this screen, like like current Tsc.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): you may not need the host key, because everyone can share. Our recording is automatic. So
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Recording is automatic. So I I send the email to him about where where he can collect the recording.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): He doesn't have a host key. He doesn't have access to edit edit permission to that. You know the page.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): For a meeting like that. And that was my reservation about putting all the meetings in in the tool. Because you're correct. The community does not have that
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): that those permissions yet. So if if it's where he needs to change meetings, or whatever if more comfortable with me, just taking it out of Pcc. And just getting him a zoom link, cause I think we did keep some of our zoom links. Maybe that's the better way for him.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Just because if he needs to change it, and I don't see the email or whatever in time, you know.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): That's why the policy team. They, their host Key, was expired 3 weeks ago. That's why they couldn't use it. That's why they want to use this new zoom link, and then
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): And I think they are kind of working on that angle and been working on it for a while. I don't just I just don't know what the what the progress is of it. I I think it's more of a security.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): I spoke to them recently, and they were saying that they were still in progress, because, I brought up the issue that it's not very clear
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): and then actually figure out how to put live updates there. But what I know is that they are still in the process of onboarding owner.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I don't know what's the what's going on. So I expect you receive the host key.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, okay, host key. And also the Po, person who has a host key should be able to edit the time. And the you know. Date. Yeah, okay, thank you. Thank you.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Okay, I'll I'll bring it up, I'll I think there's some meeting later today. So I'm just
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I'm gonna show you what I mean. Cause I don't know how.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Yeah, if if you can show me pretty quick, that will be fine.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): With the policy policy.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No, just open the policies. I think you can show the who has a host key.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I don't know. You can click there now.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): It within the participants. I think you can do that.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Oh, the future.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Yeah, let me go to a future meeting. Okay, here we go. Okay. So we could do this one and let me do manage meeting right?
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Right? So like, typically, if I needed to go in and stop this recording.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): I can go. I have access to Pcc where I can go in and I can.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Typically, I can go in. And what's today's date, the 30.th
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Right? Okay, I can go in and I can say Host Key, and I can say, copy host key right? And then I can go in to this Zoom Meeting
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Oh, okay, somebody still from our team has to give them the host key.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Well, that's what that's what I thought. The button was for the button. You check it to say share Host Key. So I thought, oh, it sends them something, so that if they need.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Sorry I didn't i i didn't know that. So so the the feature, for example, if somebody else claims the I I mean if you if you give the host key to somebody that doesn't have access to Pcc. They're not receiving a notification, or there's nothing, no way of telling them the host key right?
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): But if you give them the host key yourself the number. Are they able to use it.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yeah, currently, even without Host key the meeting can be recording automatically. And also, we can share screen. So functioning, okay, but if Etl wants to change the you know the zoom link with time and day, and then we have issue because we cannot do anything so.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Thank you so much. Jessica.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay, so that's it for the the Zoom Meeting piece of it. Let me see.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Just let them know that this is happening today, and I can help you review it later. But yeah, I mean, it was kinda in agreement
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): for from New Delhi, you know, and also, anyway. So we have a 2, you know, N, minus one release policy, and also, you know, deprecate the project we don't have to maintain. So, anyway. So if you send the email to a Tsc, then, as Jessica suggested, then we're gonna take a look. And then we're gonna review.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and maybe Sandra next week, we can.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): If we need the official vote. Maybe we can do next week.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay.
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Kevin Sandi (LF): Here.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Yep, let's go.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Let me check on. What is that you put in? Let me let me copy this. Okay.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): I gotta move it side of my way. Excuse me so I can drop it in.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Look at it again.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Where were we relent? Okay?
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): I'll put it here.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): And anything on sbound. It just says, work in progress.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So that's just Jessica already provide to helpful insight. So one thing I tried. I contact the nephew, and they are using darkly images same as their own name. But as you said, Jessica, they are using go language. But since go you said I don't see any issue. But yeah. But anyway, the confirmation they're using darker, same as you know, here. So
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and they're using wow ci mechanism. So, anyway. So if you for now if you have any suggestion and question you can contact me, I can forward your question to nephew dev team.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Actually ask them to try it. So I send them the the instructions on how to try as bomb, I mean, I as far as I tried it. I tried it with docker images, and I tried it with Maven code, but I'm not sure if the support is there for language we tried it with python, and it wasn't that great
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): but I don't remember other languages, so I suggested to try it and see how it goes.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): and if they wanna scan if they wanna scan the docker images, there's also a way described there, so that I know that is working well.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): You send the email to? Who.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): I believe I replied to your email with, the the location of
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): I need to recall that email. But I believe it was a reply to yours.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Raoul. i i i can't! I, CC. Raoul Rao is.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Yeah, I think it was that that the email thread. So let me le, let me go back and catch up on those emails. And then.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): No problem.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): No, no, I'll go back to that. Yeah, yeah.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I'm just the Sandra and the Ts team. We tried to using the we we try support S palm in at at the Elefn level, which Jessica handling. So anything under 11 we try to generate S form. So only doing it, thanks to Jessica and Orin, Sc. I'm not sure you are doing it. And
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and nephew is one of the candidates. So that's that's I'm trying to say, Yeah, okay.
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Jessica Wagantall (The Linux Foundation): Implemented for their few maven jobs they have several python projects. But it doesn't work well with python. So and the problem is that the team, the development team behind it, they it's very limited. So.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Okay, still, still, work in progress. Okay, okay, thank you.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay, thank you.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Alright.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): move down to Pto update.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Pto update since power is not here. So Dmr is officially deprecated because, Dan confirm he can remove the Stnc. We can remove the stnc, the dissin listener and actually andress disable that one from Om script. So that's good. He's gone. And then Sdnc. Still needs some input from Dan.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): I think the Sdnc new version with a Vlan Api is needed Andreas guys sent email to Dan. And and also, as so is waiting for the new Rfc. Api from Sdnc, that's the current update, and the
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Andress is not here. He's still working on the A. And A, and I update to get rid of a DM. Dependency. I think the Dutch telecom is working on it, so I don't. I don't see any problem here.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So okay, that's it.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay, thank you. And then that brings us to the end. Oh, no, no, not not quite. Subcommittee updates.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): The just thing is dorm and tag Wong. They provide what they plan to do. Oslo. So accordingly, we are working on the outcome. Architecture changes for Oslo.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): And also since we approved the Oslo
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): schedule which starting from today. So any requirement architecture review. You need to do for Oslo, and please contact me, and I can the the, you know, make arrangements for the review. So that's the one.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): and still we have no the formal date when we can share or parent removal
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): for also. But Edxton is working on it. I think Paulo's team, Ramesh, I think they successfully did.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): So I think they gonna share the knowledge with the Tsc. And some Pto meeting. So once you're done, we're gonna discuss about. Can we remove the old parent
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): from Oslo? That's the discussion. We tried that in New Delhi, but we found this little complicated says where we cap it. But also, maybe
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): we have some breakthrough. We don't know yet. So
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): that's the plan. Okay.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Oh, okay, good.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Okay, and then Oom update for new Delta. Well, Andres isn't here. So.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): This? Is it.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): So we'll save that one for next weekend. Apologies again, a lot of this will repeat next week since we don't have
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): quorum and a lot of folks couldn't make it today. But before we close out, do we have any? Does anyone have anything additional?
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Alright, I'm gonna take the silence as a no so
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): great. Then I will give you your time back. Everyone have a nice day, and we'll see you same time. Same place next week.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Thank you.
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Sandra Jackson (The Linux Foundation): Thank you. Thank you.
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Keguang He (China Mobile Communication Company Ltd): Thank you. Bye, bye.
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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson Software Technology): Bye, bye.