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00:15:13    Paweł Pawlak:    TSC votes to change CPS project status from incubation to mature.
00:15:19    Andreas GEISSLER (DT):    #vote +1
00:15:22    Paweł Pawlak:    #vote start
00:15:25    Byung-Woo Jun:    #vote + 1
00:15:29    Keguang He:    #vote +1
00:15:30    Dong Wang (China Telecom):    #vote + 1
00:15:31    Andreas GEISSLER (DT):    #vote +1
00:15:34    Paweł Pawlak:    #vote +1
00:15:57    Paweł Pawlak:    #vote stop
00:16:07    Paweł Pawlak:    Congratulations CPS project!
00:16:26    Paweł Pawlak:    you are now mature project
00:16:41    Thomas Kulik:    congrats !
00:21:11    Toine Siebelink:    Thanks everyone 
00:21:36    Ramesh Murugan Iyer:    Congratulations CPS project
00:23:04    N.K. Shankaranarayanan:    Congratulations to CPS project!
00:23:18    Paweł Pawlak:    TSC votes to change RC date for New Delhi from 16th of May to 23rd of May , and sign-up from June 6th to June 13th.
00:23:31    Paweł Pawlak:    #vote start
00:23:32    Byung-Woo Jun:    #vote +1
00:23:33    Andreas GEISSLER (DT):    #vote +1
00:23:37    Keguang He:    #vote +1
00:23:40    Paweł Pawlak:    #vote +1
00:23:46    N.K. Shankaranarayanan:    #vote +1
00:23:55    Dong Wang (China Telecom):    #vote +1
00:24:08    Paweł Pawlak:    #vote stop
00:40:54    Jessica Wagantall:    Jobs that haven't passed in 6 months: https://jenkins.onap.org/view/All-failed%20(180%20days)/
Jobs that haven't ran in 6 months: https://jenkins.onap.org/view/All-no-trigger%20(180%20days)/
00:42:14    Kevin Sandi:    Reacted to "Jobs that haven't pa..." with thumbs up
01:03:59    Thomas Kulik:    need to drop, sorry

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi Andrews.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I'm young.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Ain't

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Byung-Woo Jun: has to wait.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Ramesh.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Meal.

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Byung-Woo Jun: One is here. Good

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi! Caleb.

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Keguang He: Hi Adrienne.

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Byung-Woo Jun: 8.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Wait for Tahoe.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi, Pablo!

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Paweł Pawlak: Hello! Can you hear me?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yes.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Like cat.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: let me share the screen you want to share.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, I'm gonna share screen for delegation. Yeah. So let me share.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So go ahead. There, we can start.

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Paweł Pawlak: Just a second. I need to switch my headphones.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Sure.

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Paweł Pawlak: Just a second piece.

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Thomas Kulik: Hi! There!

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hello

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Byung-Woo Jun: hmm!

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Hi Thomas.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Alright, Thomas! Bye.

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Thomas Kulik: I got it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: 8.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So we're gonna start shortly as soon as the Pablo can

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Byung-Woo Jun: plug in this audio.

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Byung-Woo Jun: You can see my screen right.

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Thomas Kulik: Yes, I can.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Great, great super.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Pabo.

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Byung-Woo Jun: can you hear us?

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Byung-Woo Jun: How you doing? Well? Alright.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Pablo! We cannot hear you. But yeah.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yeah. Maybe his headphones were not that we're not that successful? Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Double muted, or something.

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Byung-Woo Jun: See

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Byung-Woo Jun: avo! Can you hear us.

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Paweł Pawlak: Can you hear me?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yes, we can hear you now. Okay. Alright.

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Byung-Woo Jun: pabu! Could I start with your your

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Byung-Woo Jun: rubo? We can start, can you?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hello.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, I will use. I will try without my headset. I hope we miss you. Good to hear me. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay. Yes, okay. Alright. Then,

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Byung-Woo Jun: Pablo said, we can start.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So this is the current agenda today.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And I'm gonna we're not gonna spend too much time, because we know what we did for Dtf.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and the important one is

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Byung-Woo Jun: on an individual component maturity level status. And we cannot discuss about this.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And also, I'm gonna put a lot of time for New Delhi and release plan and what we are doing. Milestone. And then Rc.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Jail tickets status.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then I sent the email to Pto, they need to add Rc, 0 tickets. So, anyway.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And the branch name Thomas is here. We're gonna discuss with Andreas Thomas, and and we'd like to get your opinion.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then

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Byung-Woo Jun: Sandra is not here today. So I'm gonna give information about nephew as from support by left it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Jess cause it's not here yet. So npt Update

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Byung-Woo Jun: or parent removal is proposed for Oslo.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So not today. But maybe in in near future we're gonna discuss about that. How to remove and or parent

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Byung-Woo Jun: in Oslo

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Byung-Woo Jun: and Andreas will provide all an update. And then 2 items in the operation.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and

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Byung-Woo Jun: policy already expired, outcome already expired, many other eyes going to expire. So Sandra said. She, can put the meeting in the Lfx tool like a Tsc like Pto.

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Byung-Woo Jun: you know, we're gonna Sandra and I myself will test the new the the meeting zoom links next week. So then, after that, we're gonna give you information.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And next week, you know, tag one we'll share China mobile plan for their concept of intent driven orchestration for autonomous network

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Byung-Woo Jun: next week. That's the plan. And I'm not sure Dong has the similar plan, and then, if you you have, don't want, if you have any plan.

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Dong Wang (China Telecom): Yeah.

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Dong Wang (China Telecom): Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. I I think, maybe cloud journey. We are share our plan as the release. And so sorry that I was our acos and didn't join the meeting yesterday. Okay, we can. We can either. This this session that way. We will also next week. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So yeah, next week I'm gonna add, here, the china telecom. Okay, so go back. Yeah. Thank you. Go back that the

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Byung-Woo Jun: and what we have done, and what's the plan for Oslo and Ts initiative. What are you going to focus on the Oslo that we share.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and Florie and Andress? They presented the oem enhancement and torn and share the Cps, demo how to use Cps

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Byung-Woo Jun: and Buddhist. They provide quality, assurance and security through Cicd

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Byung-Woo Jun: and Maggie and the Yadis. They share the open source. 5G. Mobile network.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then also session. He shared his vision

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Byung-Woo Jun: Owen and nephew, how they work together. He shared the idea. So anyway, you can take look at the link, and then for the additional information. So I don't want to spend too much time for this.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So so this is the I'm not. Twan is here.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So this is a background. So after only a streamlining own, it is not

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Byung-Woo Jun: a platform

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Byung-Woo Jun: so we used to, you know, and release the own it as your platform. So you know. So we don't have individual component maturity level status officially.

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Byung-Woo Jun: not to externally especially. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: that's why now only is collection of network automation function. So there is a question for dps

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Byung-Woo Jun: from Fujisu. I think that's the Orient.

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Byung-Woo Jun: OM. They are already using the the Sdnc

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Byung-Woo Jun: That's why they want to know what's the component individual maturity. And they're not comfortable if it's not mature, that's what the the

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Byung-Woo Jun: the Tawan con connect, you know. So brought up this issue. So we Tsc, we need to discuss about this procedure policies and steps. So maybe we need to choose on it component maturity level

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Byung-Woo Jun: by voting. So this is kind of a candidated on a project.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Components this is the most active component now, so cps policy A and I even though we don't have Pta, but still active. This call

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Byung-Woo Jun: Ccsdk, Sdn, C.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I. Put Cps twice, and Cds

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Byung-Woo Jun: and DC. Agent 2, and OM. Andres, they increase a lot of the enhancement Security and others.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and Portal Ng, from Deutsch Telecom is a new component. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: and also Sdc, so Uui. So that's why we need to discuss about this.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then how to handle this?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Any? To one you have any

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Byung-Woo Jun: additional information for this.

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Toine Siebelink: Yeah. Thanks. Viewing for bringing this up just to the feedback from Fujitsu as well. They they also found it a bit strange that Cps has a has, you know, has the the gold standard for best practices. So it seems to be contradicting the fact that we're we're still in a incubation stage. So yeah, I just wants to add that. So maybe that might help the decision as well. The fact that we have that batch.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So how they know it's in the incubation step steps.

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Toine Siebelink: How do exactly know? That's a good question. It it is in I I I'm not sure what else is published. I know it's just in a Yama file in the project. I I don't know where else it might be.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, yeah, though, you know, it's not like we. You know, we're not following Cncf way, you know, incubation, sandbox and maturity and graduation. Something like that. We haven't processed that way. That's why.

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Byung-Woo Jun: certify individual owner component or treaty level. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: for example, as a beginning as a start. For just to ask about cps, specifically, maybe. Tsc.

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Byung-Woo Jun: since Ts Cps already have a gold standard for the you know the under Tony Tony's, you know, guide guidance. So and also I think the other component we promote about that. You know the

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Byung-Woo Jun: gold standard, and also we determine the Western maturity level. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: any suggestion on the procedure for this will we just

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Byung-Woo Jun: list the order procedure, and then we just

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Byung-Woo Jun: vote for maturity level. You know, I'm just asking your opinion. So.

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Paweł Pawlak: Guys, any thoughts.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: go ahead.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And what's he? Andris?

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Paweł Pawlak: No, in.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): No, no, it wasn't me was puppet.

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Paweł Pawlak: But.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

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Paweł Pawlak: You know, my opinion is that Cps is one of the champion projects, I would say in an app. So this argument, and of of gaining the the gold badge is is is perfect example of it.

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Paweł Pawlak: So I really don't see reason why it would not be, you know.

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Paweł Pawlak: As mature, marked as mature matured. Right? So

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Paweł Pawlak: yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So should we? You know, should we? The Tsd determine the level of the maturity? I mean the let's say, goal that will mature

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Byung-Woo Jun: and

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Byung-Woo Jun: product.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, we can vote if you want to do, we have, do we have enough Tsc members today?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, 5. We have. The yeah. The don't want to then change color. But we have 1, 2,

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Byung-Woo Jun: 3,

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Byung-Woo Jun: pull

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Byung-Woo Jun: 5. We have 5. So we have, we have, we have quorum.

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Paweł Pawlak: Ok.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, we are good. So.

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Paweł Pawlak: Third vote. I I see really no reason why why we would not move. I I'm surprised that it was not done, you know, some time ago. But okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: if it happened that we somehow forgot to do it, it's high time to do it, and that's it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, for 2.

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Toine Siebelink: Yeah, you can.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Can do cps, maturity.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Mitchell.

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Toine Siebelink: Actually, I I can answer that question. I did approach Kenny Kenny about this, maybe over a year ago. But

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Toine Siebelink: yeah, at the time dance was a bit vague. And the process wasn't clear. Now, now I'm still not sure

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Toine Siebelink: I I understand from Boom. It was basically ignored to this status. I knew it came up

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Toine Siebelink: in the release plan. There was a section there where it was addressed, but and I asked the question, you know, how, how do we ever get to mature? But no, I didn't really get a clear answer from it any at the time.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay. So now we go, we gonna do

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Byung-Woo Jun: today for

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Byung-Woo Jun: at at least the cps.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I'm gonna change this one later. So the power, can you drop the chat about the voting procedure? We can

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Byung-Woo Jun: for this.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay. Okay. Let me try.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So what's the our the level mature? Much, much mature. We're not doing graduation right? So

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Byung-Woo Jun: oh, it's.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Think we have to just mature.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, so okay, good. Okay, voting started

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): a difference. Right? So on one hand, we are now select, or we are now voting for. The project itself is that.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): The project, not the component, because I think the component. Then we have this official whatever

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yep.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, guys, officially, I confirm completed

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Paweł Pawlak: congratulations. Cps, project.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yup indeed!

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Byung-Woo Jun: so yeah, we need to. We we need for now, project is mature. We we agree. And then the component is another level of discussion to me. And so you will add to new new daily release notes. And then not only the you know the

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Byung-Woo Jun: I think, Pto, they should. Bring up this issue to next Tsc, I'm gonna tell. You know, Pto, about the policy the Ramesh, if you want to. You know, put you you know the level of the your project.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Just bring up putting it to us. And I'm gonna vote for next week for. So we gonna one by one, we gonna the determine the project level maturity. And it's not mature, you know, incubation or portal. Ng, Theta. I don't know. Peter is here. It's a new project, so maybe

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Byung-Woo Jun: could be starting at incubation or sandbox. So we see. So, anyway, congratulation? Okay, this is it. And your question, your question.

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Byung-Woo Jun: My my opinion, so we can. We can discuss the owner of his on the elephant right, the owner of his community.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and only of this collection of network functions. So we are defined. Each network function slash, project, maturity. And so we used to have owner level platform, level or maturity. But the owner of this collection. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: I think we have to determine the project level maturity. And then, once the older project that mature, maybe we can. Consider the own it as your own. It as a collection we can bump up to the maturity level, that's my opinion. But we need to set the procedure.

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Byung-Woo Jun: that's what. So we already. Talked to elephant team only of his collection and the inside own it, you know, though, each project is the in network function project. So is composer that. So only is composed of that, you know. Collection. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: policy and steps define it. So yeah. But now you know, Epsilon, you can tell Fujiso is so much you

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Byung-Woo Jun: but the Cps already has the capability and generating the log based on the standard.

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Byung-Woo Jun: The quote. You know the global requirements. So, okay, anyway, good enough.

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Toine Siebelink: Buddy!

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Byung-Woo Jun: thank you, Joan. So we're gonna move on to next one.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Is that okay? We can move with the next one.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, so I'm gonna talk to about the new daily

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Byung-Woo Jun: we talked this at the Oem with the Ngs and others, and then I don't think we are ready

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Byung-Woo Jun: it do. You agree? Then we can vote for this problem.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I'm one of you.

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Paweł Pawlak: I mean, hold on. Normally we were voting the the if the dates were Sweden right.

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Byung-Woo Jun: We do? We do?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, I share this proposal. You know, we want to move to May sixteenth to 20, third.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and June sixth to 13 desktop proposal. So Tsd need to approval

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Paweł Pawlak: So we change from the sixteenth of May

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah. And yes, sign up for June sixth to 13.

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Paweł Pawlak: hold on a second. Let me push the button. Hold. Start.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Kate.

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Paweł Pawlak: Please. Vote.

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Byung-Woo Jun: One more.

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Byung-Woo Jun: 1 one more.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you. Shankar.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I start collecting it. So this is the work for now. So policy and cps, they already created this, the Jira ticket for release candidate and then also test.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So based on the I change the the search criteria for new Delhi. I create this.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then I sent the email to Pto. They need to fill up this page.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So here, Duan, and then Ramesh. They put the Jira epic tickets

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Byung-Woo Jun: and they put the older tests

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Byung-Woo Jun: based on this information, I created the pie chart and then previous page.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And I created. So I sent email to ptls

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then the and I'm not sure oem you owe him. Probably I'm not sure. Andress you. You're gonna do some release candidates. I don't know Don Williams.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): We are just waiting for the rest of the components to deliver their charts. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: That's my understanding. So I'm gonna put, not off recover. Yeah, okay, multivim, no changes. But we gonna still including. So anyway, no, Pto, I'm gonna probably, you know, leave as this. And then

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Byung-Woo Jun: Peter, and then he need to put the release candidate the epics and the task.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Peter, I see you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: No, it's not here.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So I'm gonna send separate email to him

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Byung-Woo Jun: and Dante when you already got it and says you and then also keg one. You are the Ptr of the uui, right.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Then could you the create, the uui epics?

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then test, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And you can look at the the pattern. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can. Do. You know A as you once you create this, you will be automatically reflected here.

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Toine Siebelink: For a second. Yeah. So just one question about Om and Andre for Andreas. Maybe you can see in our stages we have the Om changes submitted.

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Toine Siebelink: I think this is the way it always works at the at this stage we just submit the changes.

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Toine Siebelink: And I suppose it's it's it's will be Andreas that will be eventually approving these and merging these. So that's not part of this this process, and so submit is good enough. Not much.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Correct. Oh, I will, I will! I will still start some gating, and so on. And

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, now, no pickup. So I'm gonna fill up this information. That's good, then, you know. So once the pto fill up this information, create this ticket for epic, send and test. And now I can

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Byung-Woo Jun: then we can until sign off. We can keep monitor I can. How many opens? How many close I can, how many submitted I can. I can manage that. So that's good.

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Byung-Woo Jun: that's why I cover this. And I already sent email to Ppos for this and hope they can respond back quickly.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And this is what the interesting part the

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Byung-Woo Jun: So we used to have the this the marketing version name like a Montreal, you know, and the and we we now we just propose a new Delhi.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So that's why Code Branch 2 thought Code Branch. They go with a marketing micro regime. New Delhi, I think. Cps already creating new Delhi

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Byung-Woo Jun: based on my request. And then but the Thomas documentation we can. The that's 2 option. Right. So I talked to the engineers yesterday, too.

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Byung-Woo Jun: number 14. Well, 14 dot something I don't know so, and from New Delhi desk I'm try. I you know. I don't have much preference, but initially, I thought the new Delhi is still kind of a natural choice, but on second, so

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Byung-Woo Jun: we can change it now. Or though if we using new daily code wrench, I say, is independent of the the helm charting.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so your documentation, right? So you choose the the version. Maybe you can still using numbering system based on the helm chart versions. I don't know which one is preference. So anyway, I just put the 2 option we create the branch

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So I think we decided now that I think we stay with the old. So the old

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So I think that's the easier way now to change or to leave it like it is like we had it already.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): And we'll take some effort, of course, also, for for Thomas. Now

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Byung-Woo Jun: So, Thomas, for now to Andreas mentioned Code Branch West to go with the marketing. Okay, that's fine. I'm gonna remove this one for now, but you can after you investigate the the possibility to talk with up and let us know about the fine.

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Thomas Kulik: And then I I have also the, the, the, the chance to to to add the line and read me. I can do also that that means we end up in a in a new daily branch that consists of new daily branches of all the packages. But maybe there are packages that have no updated update in it. But saying, Hey, I'm new daily, but I'm totally fine with.

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Byung-Woo Jun: That's that's fine. Then. Okay, so we put the general rule. If project does not have any changes, no, Octave, no Pto, and that there's no branch, no branch changes this quote code perspective.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So but we, we gonna change some dummy the the branch. But new daily. We don't. Wanna go back to Istanbul. That's fine to me.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And likewise Hallib charting is needed for active project. Only if there's no project changes they can stay at the at the old Hall versions. I think Andreas already are supporting this the umbrella scripting they can plug into any the existing

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Byung-Woo Jun: the virgins. So that's good thing. And then document for selecting virgin can be numeric.

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Byung-Woo Jun: We are not sure yesterday. Okay, okay, this is a decision that's good. We gonna move on. So this is what we gonna handle branch. So I already send the the email to Ptos, and after they you know, as they are called, is stable like a cps, and create a new daily branch for that. So for new daily, okay, that's the one. Okay, thank you

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Byung-Woo Jun: we changed, though. A date to May 30, and the you know, the Rc. And the sign up are same. But kick up is I I postpone in another couple of weeks.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So that's a Ptr decision. So, according to new streamlining release planning. So Tto decides when to start. So we don't. We don't block. And okay, we it's not waterfall, so they can start any time. So for we cancel in. For now Ts voting for us for schedule from May 20, third. But it can be changed. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so that's the that's the release status the from me. And thank you for porting. And then another work. Okay? And then hope the Pto

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Byung-Woo Jun: And so, okay, so that's the one move on sandra is not here today on it. Insight. She's going to update next week.

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Jessica Wagantall: Yeah, I'm here. Was there a ticket on this or any.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so we don't have ticket yet. I wasn't sure, though someone already didn't know. So after that they let me let me try to from the beginning.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so, and they asked us, you know they're connecting to here.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So I went there, and they have the better inside better version. But funny thing is, there is no own app.

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Jessica Wagantall: Yeah, this is because they're they're working on the transition between v, 2 and B, 3. I believe. So I think.

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Jessica Wagantall: So it they it. We. We started migrating a few of the repos because it has to be done one by one. But as a whole. It's gonna be present by July. But I think what you're seeing is Big 3. That's that's the reason why the other one for Kaden.

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Byung-Woo Jun: anyway. So yeah, yeah. So I think that someone has to put their own app and dummies they're working in progress. They have to indicate. Otherwise, you know, people think only it's gone out of the elephant.

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Jessica Wagantall: Right that is gone. It doesn't have an indication that is on progress, so I'll let them know that this is kind of misleading.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, this, Mr. Deating. I was kinda shocked, you know, this morning when I look at this. So okay, we we ask, okay, good.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, this is update. And Jessica. If you have any update, Sandra, you can update next week about this, how? How? What's the changes? And okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Thank you. Jessica.

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Jessica Wagantall: I did.

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Jessica Wagantall: Let me let me post it in the chat.

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Jessica Wagantall: So we have 2 new tabs in Jenkins. One of them shows the Jenkins jobs that haven't passed in 6 months, and the other one that I'm posting. There is the jobs that haven't been triggered in 6 months.

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Jessica Wagantall: some of these components I don't know if they're still active. I don't know if we should abandon this a clean up, not abandon, clean up these jobs and not

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Jessica Wagantall: the reason I'm bringing this up is because when we are planning for the migration to github actions. We want to migrate. What's actually really active otherwise is, gonna be a lot of work for us to migrate things that are not active anymore. So the way other communities handle this is basically anything

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Jessica Wagantall: gets automatically removed from Jenkins or gets deprecated until the tech team. If they decide to recover it, they can always recover it. But in other communities we just automatically deprecate branches and jobs that hasn't been run in this amount of time. And also this this will allow us to focus on what's actually active.

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Jessica Wagantall: So I'm not sure if we can implement something similar.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So the pabo. Let's look at this job. And we and just, and we deprecate many of the component in New Delhi. So we're gonna look at the job. And that it's not the you know, is is, you know.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So for into the deprekate process we're gonna let you know which you want. Which job to cancel was in which one. So we we gonna let you know we need to look at. Thank you for bringing up this and Pablo myself, and then Jessica. No, no, the Andreas and other

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Byung-Woo Jun: you know. Interesting. And here then, you know, we can work together, and then return back to Jessica. So we will. We will.

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Jessica Wagantall: Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Well, well.

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Byung-Woo Jun: we'll check.

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Paweł Pawlak: But if you, if you're looking at those jobs, I think you're right, if something is not run for the next last 6 months, it means that it was not part of this release, or even

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Paweł Pawlak: potentially, could not be part of the previous one. So.

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Jessica Wagantall: And same, for the jobs that hasn't been passed hasn't passed in 6 months. I mean, some of the jobs that have that have been failing for 6 months. I there, there might still be active components and active branches, but the jobs are just left to

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Jessica Wagantall: continue to fail for more than 6 months.

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Paweł Pawlak: I think, for sure. If some job has in its name some previous release like London con.

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Paweł Pawlak: you can. You can get rid of it right? It's it's it's old, and

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Branches.

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Jessica Wagantall: We could be living around.

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Paweł Pawlak: Storages.

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Jessica Wagantall: What are the active branches that we should be living around? Because, not we have very old branches still in some components. So I I just wanna make sure we leave the the really.

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Paweł Pawlak: You have the list of core components, right? The the that they're listing.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): No, the question was the the branches right? So I mean the versions which we are still supporting. I think we are do only support the last 2 versions so, but.

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Jessica Wagantall: So not really new and new. Delhi.

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Byung-Woo Jun: okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so so, Jessica, we have a list of the what's the core component. Now, I mean, the. You know, we deprecate many of them. If you don't, maybe I can send email about the what components. I think the address has at least andress andress create a list. We can hold it to you and also plus. And we can put the N minus one policy. We can. Probably

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Jessica Wagantall: Yeah. And many of these are recoverable. I mean, it's not like they're gonna go away forever. But it will be good to have a clean slate so that we can focus on migrating what's actually active because it's already a lot of jobs that need to be migrated. So this will help us a lot migrating what's really needed.

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Byung-Woo Jun: create for us. And then you can. Look at that, and then you can press and minus one. Then you can take a look. And also I'm gonna myself. We're gonna look at this the list. And then we're gonna Nick, okay, we do that. We do that. Okay, so today, after this meeting, I'm gonna send the list Andreas be so.

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Byung-Woo Jun: okay, thanks. And then this one Jessica. This is kind of across the you know, nephew S, one support by lf, it, I think I sent you email and then copy to Raoul. The yeah, he's the chair of the nephew. 6 security.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and they have a requirement for Espum generation so Modesto and I suggest them to contact you because.

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Jessica Wagantall: Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Elephant should to follow the same mechanism. So okay.

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Jessica Wagantall: So quick question ours phone is embed embedded into our docker stage and Maven stage jobs. I'm I'm completely unfamiliar with nephew, but do they have such stage jobs where we can embed them? This bomb report.

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Byung-Woo Jun: That's we need to discuss the nephew team. And then, so I I'm gonna add the bring up. This is to under Nephew 6 security next Tuesday and then provide answer for you. So maybe I'm gonna invite to that the meeting to you. So you can join the can. You know Qa with the.

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Jessica Wagantall: Good. Just a quick, a quick thing I'm gonna be out the next week from Wednesday and come back until next Wednesday. So anything yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: It's not urgent. It's not urgent. So, okay, yeah, okay, thanks. If you have any question, what information do you need to send me? Email, then I can forward it to the role. And then we know I can send back email that way. We can hand it that way offline. Okay.

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Jessica Wagantall: Okay. I will thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Paabo. Yes.

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Paweł Pawlak: First of all, we are trying to get feedback from them.

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Jessica Wagantall: so sorry. Let me explain how how I see this list. So as soon as somebody takes a request from Jsd, it disappears from the unattended queue. So if it if is, there is probably under somebody of my team members name. So I need to check if anybody grab it.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you.

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Jessica Wagantall: Absolutely.

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Paweł Pawlak: We had also discussion on the remaining.

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Paweł Pawlak: So yeah, I think basically.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I think there was one issue which which feature pointed out, and I was, let's say, checking that in the in the latest locks, actually. So also A and AI

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): require still a patch to get the D map independency implemented. So I requested this from our team. So we have

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): we have still some image creation issue. But I think

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): that. so I will check that we get in the next days or week at least. An an updated AI version, because otherwise at least, the target to get rid of the D Mac message Router in new daily would be in on risk. Because, of course, if if AI would not support this properly.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): then of course, we cannot, we cannot remove it, at least from new daily. So that means I I'm I'm pushing now our team to get these changes. done in the next week, so that we are ready for release candidate. for the AI patch. And of course, as as you already mentioned, so we don't have any updates on

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): the on the sdnc, so neither.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): And so the last patch which I have seen was is one month old, where they wanted to release

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): some versions for new daily. But the changes which

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): were proposed for the Sso change basically regarding this interface, or Dan confirmed that they have to do something. Nothing has been done so far and no reaction so far from them.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So this is some, the the second risk. Basically, we have for the release. Yeah.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So either we don't have any.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Sdnc version included a new Sdnc version, and the other thing is, then, if A and AI is not updated, we cannot remove the d map to the D map message route.

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Byung-Woo Jun: A lot of work for a and I the dependency, the lead of the you know, dependency from A, and I.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I think it's not much work for the for the for the AI stuff. So

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): so the the so to get the d map part out so because we have already some.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): some some some all created images working. But they have to push this to the code, to the to the garret. Basically. So we are compiling, of course, our code also in our environment. And here it is working. And they just have to move this basically, then to the as a patch, to the to the A to the garret, and to release, then the new version there, and this include, then to include them, basically in the

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): in the OM in an OM change. So this is the only thing which they have to do so, but as we know, I mean, we are quite busy with our in our in our internal work.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I have to force them and push them a little bit, that they that they that they do these changes. But there are is not big, not a big effort to do, basically to to implement that.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, yeah. So and I see his own window in is a walk in progress. And then so we need to really get feedback from then, I think the once 2 weeks ago. Then participating the Pta, he gave us some positive, and he were. He said he were counted you. But somehow.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So we need to. You know, yeah, the probably you send the email to 10 this week, too. Right?

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Paweł Pawlak: Yes, yes, I did, too.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay. Somehow, we didn't get the response from him. I don't know. He's on vacation. I have no idea.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So anyway, I I really, we are getting close, and we really wants to. You know, to deuce telecom handling, and I I hope to at T. Then.

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Byung-Woo Jun: you know, ending the Sdnc for the email, Mr. Dependency. So we are so close. So I know it's a shame to give up now. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: anyway, hope to. Dan can answer, back us quickly, so okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: yeah.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah. So no, no more updates from Pts call. So let's move forward. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay. So next one, I'll come also we are working, and then don't want, and the keg one, and they have a plan for Oslo, I think they gonna share next week as a indicating also vision

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Byung-Woo Jun: and based on the vision we're gonna adjust to our architecture. So base, basically lightweight on it with the A and IA AI and Ml focus.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And they're still kind of a slogan.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So it's work. It's in working work in progress.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and the next one is Edison. They are working on the Opare on removal, I think, which one Rames, the policy they removed, the all parent dependency. I don't know which one was that.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Yes, Weung policy removed open and dependency in New Delhi.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yes, so that thank you. Thank you. So I think that after our internal discussion.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and we might present how to remove or parent. Amy. And second, we discuss why. And then we says to, and also engines. And it was very complicated. A lot of dependencies. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: I think there's, you know, in near future, Alex, I'm going to share what they did to remove the oparent dependency from policy. Maybe that probably gives us some. Some, you know, hints how to handle. So for also, we we current plan, we try to remove the apparent. But let's see how you know, Alex, indeed! And so we're gonna present

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Byung-Woo Jun: what they did for policy. And then we, that's a, you know, good example. So okay. So we gonna decide the which you know the meeting. It could be outcome. It could be Om.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and you know what the second we can we decide which meeting? You know, we're gonna use on it. Presentation. So okay, that's the input

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Byung-Woo Jun: Andreas. This is kind of a duplicate for you to discuss about that. Do you have any oem update in general.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): In general.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I'm start trying to to merge and to make a gating for all of the open patches. There are still some pending, as I said already, for the for AI as well as for Sdnc. I'm waiting for that, and maybe some smaller patches regarding which we are doing regarding the policy or the the Cabana policy. But this is not so important, not no functionality

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): change. So far. We are quite good at at the moment. I have gating issues. Because one of the images which I would expect in Nexos are this have disappeared. So that was for the

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): robot tests. So that means the robot based tests are not executed at the moment because I'm missing an image.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): for the master branch. Maybe I have to check whether I have to restart some.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): some Jenkins job to create, recreate the

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): the image so that it's maybe automatically

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): deleted or something. Or maybe Jessica can help. I don't know. So that's something which is at the moment a little bit of a problem. I'm just

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): let's say monitoring here, besides that, the latest skating ones. And here I see that it's not up, not possible to download it from nexus 3. So that's the that's the problem at the moment. But anyway, so that's that otherwise. Om, yeah, we have some pending patches here, but it's not too much. So we can we can handle

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So so we gonna discuss, I'll see next week, anyway. So okay, okay, good. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, I'm gonna move up here.

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Byung-Woo Jun: okay, this is colorable

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Byung-Woo Jun: I mentioned to Sandra. So some of the own app Zoom Meeting host keys are expiring unless expired outcome expired, and I think the

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Byung-Woo Jun: some of the the host queue will be expired near future. So we need to resolve this issue for Pto to manage their meetings.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and one suggestion move to New Lfx. Own app Zoom links like Tsc. And Pta doing it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And Sandra said yesterday she can put the meetings in the Lfx Lfx tool.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then we going to test this next Tuesday and Sandra and myself, and then we're gonna let you know. And if you have any concern to moving your

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Byung-Woo Jun: meeting to Lfx. 2. Please. Let us know. Send me email and Sandra, CC, then we we're gonna decide which meeting goes to where. So we're gonna tell you. That's the one. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and we will let you know next week. And, Tony, you have a concern. Here, Tony, is yours.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Tony.

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Tony Hansen: Sorry.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, go ahead.

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Tony Hansen: Oh.

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Tony Hansen: juggling 2 meetings here. So

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Tony Hansen: that's okay.

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Tony Hansen: 1 1

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Tony Hansen: so if if we're gonna roll out the lfx jumped

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Tony Hansen: the

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Tony Hansen: screened for more of the

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Tony Hansen: more of the Zoom Rooms that we have. I I I do have. There is a feature that Zoom

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Tony Hansen: used to have that. Let us

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Tony Hansen: change our

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Tony Hansen: name

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Tony Hansen: in in

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Tony Hansen: the hub

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Tony Hansen: as as part of the URL that was used for the zoom.

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Tony Hansen: So you click on it, and your name is automatically set

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Tony Hansen: with the new jump page that we have. The

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Tony Hansen: only way to set your name to anything

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Tony Hansen: about

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Tony Hansen: appropriate for this Zoom Rooms is to change the name that is in Ls.

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Tony Hansen: Opened up

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Tony Hansen: the

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Tony Hansen: single sign on screen which has your first name, your last name, and

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Tony Hansen: whatever you put there.

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Tony Hansen: But most most people I know just want their name there. But for the Zoom Rooms, particularly for the Tsc.

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Tony Hansen: Meeting.

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Tony Hansen: we did have a rule, saying that

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Tony Hansen: the

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Tony Hansen: the screen name should be your first name, then their last name and capital letters, and then in parentheses, your

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Tony Hansen: company name, and

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Tony Hansen: we

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Tony Hansen: have moved away from that, it seems because very few people have their names set up that way.

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Tony Hansen: And

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Tony Hansen: Oh.

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Tony Hansen: the

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Tony Hansen: I I think we've lost

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Tony Hansen: functionality when we move to the jump pages.

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Tony Hansen: We were discussing this on the second meeting the other day because we're

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Tony Hansen: about to move to

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Tony Hansen: or talking about how, what to do there with the the post codes

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Tony Hansen: expiring. And

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Tony Hansen: just there was a a peeve of mine that I brought up

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Tony Hansen: with

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Tony Hansen: after the Tsc. Meetings moved, and

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Tony Hansen: then the Ptl. Meetings and so forth. And

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Tony Hansen: I was told. Nope, that's the way it works. And I asked for.

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Tony Hansen: okay, where is the source code for this? So I can.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hmm.

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Tony Hansen: Give you a a push that provides the

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Tony Hansen: oh

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Tony Hansen: provides the functionality. But

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Tony Hansen: I I never got any response to that. I don't know.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Who who did you contact.

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Tony Hansen: The it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay.

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Tony Hansen: Ticket is right?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Like this ticket. Right? So, okay.

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Tony Hansen: Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Jessica, you have any insight for this.

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Jessica Wagantall: Not top of my head. To be quite honest, I I let me check. Who? Who's the owner of that ticket? And what's going on.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Kit.

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Byung-Woo Jun: yeah, okay, thank you. We shared in here. Because you're you're you're attending here. So if you can check.

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Byung-Woo Jun: that'll be great. And

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Byung-Woo Jun: yeah, since we gonna move more Zoom Meeting to Lfx. So maybe this one is nice to, you know, resolve this one. So anyway. Yeah, okay, let us know. Let Tony know. And then that okay, great super

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Byung-Woo Jun: just come.

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Tony Hansen: Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, great

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Byung-Woo Jun: So next next week, you know, China, mobile and China telecom. Okay, Guang don't want. They are planned. They plan to present their concept

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Byung-Woo Jun: of intent driven orchestration for autonomous next week. So it's very interesting

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Byung-Woo Jun: topic. And I am, really looking forward to hearing their concept. So okay, so

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Byung-Woo Jun: the cabin, you say, is okay and don't want you say it's okay. Right?

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Dong Wang (China Telecom): Yeah, it's okay.

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Keguang He: From the.

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Dong Wang (China Telecom): Okay, yeah, it's okay for us. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So far, we, gonna you know, schedule for next week. Okay, thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Pablo, that's all I have. Do you have any

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Byung-Woo Jun: or other people have, and any other

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Byung-Woo Jun: business.

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Paweł Pawlak: Good evening. None. Thank you very much, guys. Thank you for your participation. Thank you for your contributions

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Paweł Pawlak: and for for the positive voting

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Paweł Pawlak: day and look to you next week. Have a wonderful rest of the day, guys.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Thank you very much.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Zoom Katie.

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Paweł Pawlak: You'll be right.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I am ya.

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Toine Siebelink: And to like.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Bye, bye.