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2023 TSC Recordings	2023 TSC Decisions	Anti-Trust Policy

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Attended	Proxy (w/ @name)	Holiday	Did Not Attend

Attendance is taken purely upon #info in Zoom Chat

Andreas Geißler	DT	Byung-Woo Jun	Ericsson
Cédric Ollivier	Orange	N.K. Shankaranarayanan	Individual
Chaker Al-Hakim	Individual	Paweł Pawlak	Incognito
Dan Xu	Huawei	Ram Krishna Verma	Bell Canada
Dong Wang	China Telecom	Seshu Kumar Mudiganti	Windriver
Gervais-Martial Ngueko	AT&T	Timo Perala	Nokia
Keguang He	China Mobile

	Agenda Items	Presented By	Presos/Notes/Links/
Strategy (45 minutes)	ONAP takeaways		We are encouraging ONAP consumers to share with us their feedback, so we could prioritize our activities and make ONAP better suited their needs and requirements.
	LFN Cross-Organization Updates MAC, SPC, TAC, EUAG, LFN Board	Andreas Geißler	AAF certificate issue for old ONAP releases: AAF Certificate Fix (< London) Notes: Create AAF CA certificates 1st patch: https://gerrit.onap.org/r/c/oom/+/135975?usp=search Can customers live with the problem or not? Answer is unclear - don't want to spend time on this unnecessarily
		Byung-Woo Jun , Hui Deng , Vishal Sharma	modeling/etsicatalog repo deprecation Email from Deng Hui repo is already archived Speak NZ making use of it - no contributions SO is also a downstream user can move the repo under SO Actions: AGREED: the TSC approved re-enabling the modeling/etsicatalog repo without anyone to currently maintain it remove etsicatalog from archive status and restore Jenkins jobs Tony Hansen When a repo goes into unmaintained status, also need to change its badging status to indicate that it is unmaintained Move etsicatalog under SO by New Delhi release Byung-Woo Jun will open the ticket for the jobs, etc. Not to re-home the repo. Byung-Woo Jun created an IT ticket for the jobs for Jessica, https://jira.linuxfoundation.org/plugins/servlet/desk/portal/2/IT-26118 Jessica Gonzalez completed the IT ticket. So, the etsicatalog repo is restored. Thank you, Jess !!!
	TCC / ONAP Liaison Updates
	Task Force Updates


Operations (40 minutes)	TSC Activities and Deadlines	Kenny Paul Kenny Paul Toine Siebelink	TSC Election 2023 TSC Election Candidates Wiki Page Email from Sandra Next task is the officer elections. 2024 Budget Planning Kenny Paul email to the TSC TSC input needed by Nov 3 Budget: AGREED maintain the current run rate for 2024 Proposal to retire the CPS-Temporal project Process for unmaintained projects (see section 3, Transition Steps) Email vote results APPROVED based upon email vote.
	Release Status	David McBride	Montreal schedule RC scheduled for Nov 9 Reminder email to PTLs Tracking project versions for the Montreal release
	RelEng/Infrastructure	Toine Siebelink / Jessica Gonzalez	Proposal to require 2FA for ONAP Jira instance This supports the CPS project attainment of the OpenSSF gold badge, which requires that security issues only be accessible to a limited group using 2FA. Original thought was to apply this only to the OJSI Jira project, however, it's much easier to apply 2FA to the entire ONAP Jira instance. Should take less than a day to implement. Note that, once implemented, it will be very time consuming to reverse. Request for clarity on what the additional issues are around enabling 2FA and a global for Jira. Vote held pending that information from IT. #VOTE Does the TSC approve requiring 2FA for the ONAP Jira instance, including all projects within the instance?
	PTL Updates
	Subcommittee Updates Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements
Events & Meetings (5 minutes)	Upcoming Events & Housekeeping		Daylight Savings Time ends: Oct 29 - Europe Nov 5 - U.S. Paweł PTO October 16th -October 27th Sandra PTO October 25th - November 6th ONE Summit Regional Day: India 30 Nov 2023 Registration page F2F D&TF Budapest, Hungary 13 Nov 2023 - 16 Nov 2023 Submission deadline is Weds, Nov 1 (email from Timo) Topic proposals Convince Your Boss Visa Letter Request

Zoom Chat Log

00:20:43 Kenny Paul: #vote does the TSC approve re-enabling the modeling/etsicatalog repo without anyone to currently maintain it? +1, 0, -1
00:20:48 Byung-Woo Jun: +1
00:20:57 Timo Perala: +1
00:21:06 Andreas GEISSLER (DT): #vote +1
00:21:22 Dan Xu: #vote +1
00:21:39 N.K. Shankaranarayanan: #vote +1
00:21:55 Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: #vote +1
00:22:15 Pawel Pawlak: Vote +1
00:22:15 Keguang He: #vote +1
00:22:16 Kenny Paul: #endvote
00:22:38 Tony Hansen: When a repo goes into unmaintained status, also need to change its badging status to indicate that it is unmaintained
00:22:50 Kenny Paul: AGREED: the TSC approved re-enabling the modeling/etsicatalog repo without anyone to currently maintain it
00:28:10 Pawel Pawlak: Congrats TSC TEAM!
00:30:36 Kenny Paul: Budget: AGREED maintain the current run rate for 2024
00:42:43 Byung-Woo Jun: @Kenny Paul , an IT ticket was issued for making the etsicatalog repo active and add a Jenkins job for the etsicatalog repo, https://jira.linuxfoundation.org/plugins/servlet/desk/portal/2/IT-26118
00:44:35 Byung-Woo Jun: The etsicatalog rehome will be discussed later for the New Delhi - need to go through ARCCOM and SO discussions. Thanks.

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Kenny Paul: maybe there we go.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): no news on that. So I didn't have time to look into the the, let's say, replies, basically, the replies, what I've seen were just mentioning. Okay?

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): we have detected the same problems as I have detected. But I hadn't go into any kind of solution mode. And what is a bit missing is.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): can the customers live with the problems

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): or the left over? Let's say problems. That is not clear to me. So I mean it. There are some some issues which are not resolved by by the patch. But is someone depending on a solution for for the other remaining

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): as I said so, I didn't have time to to go into the details in the last weeks. because I was too busy with other stuff.

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Jessica Wagantall: the I just need the information on the jobs that need to be restored. And if those jobs are gonna be if the code from those jobs are gonna be moved somewhere else all that information. Basically.

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Jessica Wagantall: If the source code is gonna be moved somewhere else. And which jobs do you guys want to restore?

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Jessica Wagantall: Okay. then. That's all the information we need in the ticket. If you want whoever writes the Jc. Ticket, just put in the message that should be assigned to me if you want, and

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Jessica Wagantall: I can, so that whoever is on support lets me know about that ticket.

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Jessica Wagantall: and I can take care of it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Good, thanks.

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Kenny Paul: Okay, okay? So the Tsc has just voted to re enable. So somebody needs to take responsibility for it and can't

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Byung-Woo Jun: maybe I can check with the Jessica, and then I can, you know, ask a ticket for toward Jessica. Okay?

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Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: So doing, what I suggest is, you can also have word with Vishal. Okay, because he understands the con. He's a consumer for that.

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Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: So you can talk to Visha also, because he understands the modules. What he's consuming it

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Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: account that what Jessica will require is the artifacts and and the the specifications which have to specifically post for it.

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Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: We can do a backtracking office. From there we should be able to get the code that should be okay.

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David McBride: does. The ticket will ask for removing the repo from archive status and moving it under SO. Or just removing it from archive status moving back to original place, not to Sso. Another ticket there will be okay. So for one trio, we just Jessica, just restore the original place where he came from.

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David McBride: I can't remember what the rules are for email modes.

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David McBride: Where did she send that? II think she did it under Tsc. Private?

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David McBride: Oh, well, that wasn't the right place for it.

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Kenny Paul: Want to look at that.

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Kenny Paul: And yes, that is where it is.

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David McBride: Just II think we need another ticket.

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Kenny Paul: I just submit the ticket for the official removal of the or archival of the Repo.

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Kenny Paul: Yes, sir.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yes. Yeah. Okay. No problem. Yeah. I'll do that.

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Toine Siebelink: Thank you.

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Kenny Paul: You're welcome.

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Kenny Paul: David, any. I mean, updates published anything to report specifically.

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David McBride: No! II sent a reminder email to the Ptl's last week.

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Toine Siebelink: So we just started our version from 1.0 a couple of releases back and had gone up and got as far as 3. Now. So it's never been an issue. So I'm not sure if it's it's going to be an issue now, going forward, either.

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David McBride: Yeah, I think it. It's we need feedback from Andreas. whether it's an issue or not.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So regarding the version numbers, you mean from but you are talking about now. The hell chart version numbers. Or you are talking about the versions of the of these specific images, the images I'm I'm I do not concer. I'm not concerned about so. And II think we are. From the deployment point of view. Cps is, of course, a part of of the owner. Om deployment, and we are using host. And

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So, and I think you have Updated the help chat. So it's not this, not the version of the

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Toine Siebelink: of the of the images? This this is, I'm not concerned about, anyway. So it can be.

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David McBride: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll I'll clarify that on the project status page. Also. A little misleading.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): And I think you had. At least, I think you had already. Also updated.

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Kenny Paul: Okay, so I know there has been some work on this.

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David McBride: yeah, we we discussed it last week in the Tsc. But we lacked a quorum for a vote. And so we agreed to a table it and bring it up again this week.

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Jessica Wagantall: Yeah. And just as a reminder, this is the boat is for enabling a 2 factor authentication across everyone in Jira. And just as a reminder. If we agree to do this it should.

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Jessica Wagantall: it should be it should take very short time to execute, and about maybe 2 days to get everyone everyone access reflected.

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Jessica Wagantall: However, if we in future or ensure future, decide to revert to back. It's just not as easy as it seems. I mean, it's it would require a lot of work from the infra team. And oh, we're not sure whether it can be actually done. Well to be quite honest. So just be mindful that if we agree on this?

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Jessica Wagantall: Yeah. So Eric, from the infant team was helping us working on that. However, when he was doing this for certain individuals. He was finding some other issues with other groups that they were subscribed to. So it was.

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Jessica Wagantall: It was kind of messing up some other accesses. So it was. It was not a CC. I mean he he was looking into what was causing those issues. But apparently those issues are not

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Jessica Wagantall: a problem. If we just enable for everybody, it's basically easier to do it that way.

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Tony Hansen: whenever I need to go to

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Tony Hansen: anything such as this meeting. I need to log in to my Linux Foundation Id. And sometimes that requires 2 factor authentication.

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Jessica Wagantall: not to go that route and go continue working on, and the individual per individual basis access

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Kenny Paul: III think II think the question that that Tony has is. do you have more specifics on what problems were being created.

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Jessica Wagantall: Not really, I see no, not really. I need to. I need to get that information. But I know that it was causing.

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Jessica Wagantall: II all I know is that it was causing problems with other accesses.

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Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: either round of discussion on this, or we can actually go with the email vote. Either of it is okay.

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Kenny Paul: Okay. So the the the request. Then Jess is

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Kenny Paul: just get a few more details on on what the what the issues were.

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Kenny Paul: So that it can be shared with the Tsc. And then and then we go move to a vote based upon that.

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Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: Thank you. Thanks. Jess.

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Toine Siebelink: Maybe next week we'll bring an outcome.

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Toine Siebelink: It's it's it's II do appreciate. It's it's it's a yeah. And even to factor for everybody and everything in jail is is a big decision. So we need to make sure we need make the right decision based on all the facts that we have.

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Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: Yep, thanks for understanding. Actually, that's exactly what we are trying to do. And it's also helpful. I mean, if we have any issue which is known. it's also gonna help us to chime in and help and accelerate the hint that so that's a that's a whole point we are trying to understand here. Thank you.

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Seshu Kumar Mudiganti: Back to you, Kenny.

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Kenny Paul: We got daylight savings time coming up very soon, which means 2 weeks of utter chaos around the globe.

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Timo Perala: I think we currently let me.

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Timo Perala: lot of the streamlining discussion, which I think is very appropriate. And and then some others. But I think there's plenty of room for

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Kenny Paul: as a face to face event. This is important that we get those in because we need that to schedule rooms.

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Kenny Paul: so that is the most important piece to understand. There. It will. Once we have the list, we will be setting the room assignments based on that

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Kenny Paul: and if there are rooms that we can release to save money, we will be doing so. So it may be difficult to have something that comes in after that

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Kenny Paul: after that date to be able to be granted a a time slot. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it may be more difficult

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Kenny Paul: question on that everyone asks is, will there be remote attendance? Absolutely. We will do what we've always done. for all of our events, which is.

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Kenny Paul: we will not be enabling all fully remote presentations for this event. Somebody must be in the room.

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Kenny Paul: Hi! I'm on the bridge, and now somebody remote is going to do the entire presentation.

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Kenny Paul: Just be aware of that. Be able to attend. But we are not anticipating any remote presentations.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So, Andreas, and am. I say, we had a design couple of the sessions. So I'm gonna be there.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So I'm going to present something, and then also time to time. I can ask andress to

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Byung-Woo Jun: participate in the some of the additional detail. For a few pages. Is that okay? Pattern?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay? Yes. Well, we what, what, what we don't want is

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Kenny Paul: people that have traveled on site to be sitting in a room

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Kenny Paul: that for something they could have attended over. Zoom.

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Kenny Paul: that's it for folks in India. There is the one summer regional day in Bangalore

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Kenny Paul: Those are one day events that are

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Kenny Paul: tune to slightly different audiences. But if you are there, I can take advantage of that. That would be

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Kenny Paul: that would be fabulous. I believe the registration page is

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Kenny Paul: So if you're interested in that, please attend

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Kenny Paul: Okay, Doc.

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Kenny Paul: that's it. and I will let everyone go. Have a great day and talk to you later.

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Matthew Watkins: Thank you very much.

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