16 Aug 2018	IRC Minutes	2018 TSC Recordings	Full IRC Log	Zoom Chat Log	Zoom Attendance Log

Agenda Item	Requested by	Notes / Links
Housekeeping	Kenny Paul
Release Status	Gildas Lanilis Gmail
Compliance and Verification	Chris Donley	carried from Aug 2. TSC 2018-08-02 https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/Lab+Strategy
Documentation	Eric Debeau	How to enforce documentation for use-case, end to end

Full IRC Log

13:45:01 <kennypaul> #startmeeting tsc-2018-08-16
13:45:01 <collabot> Meeting started Thu Aug 16 13:45:01 2018 UTC.  The chair is kennypaul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
13:45:01 <collabot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic.
13:45:01 <collabot> The meeting name has been set to 'tsc_2018_08_16'
13:45:39 <kennypaul> #chair phrobb
13:45:39 <collabot> Current chairs: kennypaul phrobb
13:46:05 <kennypaul> #chair Stevet, gildaslanilis
13:46:05 <collabot> Warning: Nick not in channel: gildaslanilis
13:46:05 <collabot> Current chairs: Stevet gildaslanilis kennypaul phrobb
13:46:19 <kennypaul> #topic rollcall
14:00:03 <kennypaul> #info Steve Terrill, Ericsson
14:01:42 <cdonley> #info Chris Donley Huawei
14:01:51 <frankbrockners> #info Frank Brockners, Cisco
14:02:09 <JasonHUnt> #info Jason Hunt, IBM
14:18:39 <kennypaul> #topic housekeeping
14:19:01 <kennypaul> #info documentation needs
14:19:42 <kennypaul> #info discussion of dedicated technical writer
14:21:52 <kennypaul> #info needs funding from LFN board - possibly a shared resource w/ other projects.
14:23:06 <kennypaul> #info work with ODL as they have a similar need
14:23:42 <kennypaul> #action phrobb add doc to the TAC agenda
14:29:22 <kennypaul> #topic Casablanca status
14:33:54 <kennypaul> #info verify CSIT jobs should not be cause for concern.
14:35:46 <kennypaul> #info daily job failures
14:36:42 <kennypaul> #info some jobs still marked as NA - empty repos?
14:42:43 <kennypaul> #info healthchecks - AAF, SO failing daily
14:44:21 <kennypaul> #info SB07 AAF, CLAMP failing
14:45:34 <kennypaul> #info AAF - fixes WIP- just doing it is prioritized order
14:46:31 <kennypaul> #info OOM timesouts - Cathering suggests increasing time
14:51:03 <kennypaul> #info Multivim - request for 5 additional on the project - 5 committers already exist
14:55:37 <kennypaul> #info Bin Yang- cleaned up inactive - new committers represent different disciplines for specific plugings
14:57:25 <kennypaul> #info Alla and Phil support the additional committers requested
15:07:21 <kennypaul> #agreed the 5 additional committers are approved
15:09:20 <kennypaul> #topic Compliance and Verification committee
15:11:23 <kennypaul> #info Eric - would like to se the set of requirements on the first certification process
15:17:32 <kennypaul> #topic documentation process end to end
15:33:45 <kennypaul> #action TSC need to work off line on Doc PTL
15:34:45 <kennypaul> #endmeeting

Zoom Chat Log

07:00:49 From 9088571576 : # info - proxy for Chris D
07:01:05 From xinhui li : #info Xinhui Li, VMware
07:01:30 From Xiaojun Xie : #info Xiaojun Xie, China Telecom
07:01:37 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) : #info Murat Turpcu, Turk Telekom
07:01:45 From Alla Goldner : #info Alla Goldner, Amdocs
07:01:48 From Eric Debeau : #info Erc=ic Debeau, Orange
07:02:09 From Eric Debeau : #info Eric Debeau, Orange
07:02:21 From Ranny Haiby : #info Ranny Haiby, Nokia
07:02:49 From Lingli : #info Lingli Deng, CMCC
07:02:50 From rajesh gadiyar : #info Rajesh Gadiyar Intel
07:02:54 From Zhaoxing : #info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE
07:02:56 From mazingilbert : #info mazin gilbert, AT&T
07:03:10 From Davide Cherubini (Vodafone) : #info Davide Cherubini, proxy for Vodafone
07:03:15 From Stephen Terrill : #info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson. no connection to the irc today for me.
07:05:08 From 9088571576 : undoing my proxy :)
07:09:15 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : thanks kenny on the anouncement - passing on
07:10:07 From Ranny Haiby : +1
07:15:35 From Steven Wright : Re: meeting hosting - from hosting similar sized meetings in the past, the cost for the host can be reduced if an urban location with nearby offsite dining options is used.
07:15:55 From Nermin Mohamed n00371487 : what is the status of the university project?
07:20:20 From Yang Xu to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : Kenny, Helen is on vacation this week. She said she had informed you that she would not be able to join
07:20:52 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) to Yang Xu (Privately) : ok - probably in my email and I missed it.
07:20:56 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) to Yang Xu (Privately) : thank you
07:21:09 From Yang Xu to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : You are welcome
07:29:42 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : #topic casablanca status
07:30:22 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : Hello Sir, are we going to have a voting in the agenda
07:31:16 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) to Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) (Privately) : voting in what context?
07:31:36 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : i have a flight in 30 minutes it would be great if we can handle voting subjects upfront
07:32:00 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : anything TSC needs to vote
07:32:22 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) to Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) (Privately) : Ah! Nothing requiring a vote today that I’m aware of.
07:32:29 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : if there is one we know upfront
07:32:39 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : ok thanks
07:32:43 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) to Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) (Privately) : understood.
07:33:17 From Taka Cho : some CSIT jobs for APPC are failing due to CSIT platform issue. Jess is working on that.
07:34:01 From Taka Cho : INT-624
07:36:13 From mazingilbert : #Kenny We need to track chair/vice chair nominations across all subcommittees as well - not just PTLs or modeling subcommittee. Those need to be closed by end of month. Could we just add a list of those to track. Thanks!
07:36:16 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : some are the helm-verify and some are because the docker config is being worked out (seed)
07:37:38 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : for pylog-release I will check the version.properties
07:37:44 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : @Mazin - yes. will do
07:38:05 From Taka Cho : @Gildas, INT-624, INT-627
07:39:40 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) to Alla Goldner (Privately) : @alla I’ve muted you
07:41:21 From Alla Goldner to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : yes, paid attention, thanks :-)
07:47:51 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : hi again, i need to leave now
07:48:20 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : cagatay, turk telekom will be my proxy if anything critical pops up
07:48:38 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) to Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) (Privately) : safe travels!
07:48:42 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : thanks
07:50:01 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) : tekrar saol
07:50:56 From Pamela Dragosh : Committer number is limited to 3-5 via the charter.
07:54:29 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : some projects have multiple effective sub-projects - so some committers work only on a subset of the code - I support multivim's expansion. Also check the info.yaml on some projects there are up to 10 committers listed - however some committers are critical some are a little inactive but not fully inactive - so the charter 5 should be person-hours not actually people
07:55:54 From Srinivasa Addepalli (Intel) : +1. Multi-CLoud has multiple plugins and technologies. I also support increasing the committers.
07:56:22 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : the reality is that companies brings teams in and out of onap - we could accomidate this - multivim has been very accomidating - even to other projects - they contributed the python library to my project
07:56:46 From Ramki Krishnan : +1
07:56:52 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : +1
07:56:53 From Chris Donley : I support expanding the number of committers for the new repos/plugins/sub-projects.
07:59:38 From Brian Hedstrom : What is the list of the 4 current plugins?
08:00:21 From Steven Wright : Are these committers tagged as component leads for the project within teh project JIRA?
08:00:43 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=16301127
08:00:44 From Srinivasa Addepalli (Intel) : Various public Openstack public releases, VMWare VIO, Windriver Titanium, Kubernetes and Azure.
08:00:48 From Pamela Dragosh : Maybe re-word so that its 3-5 per repo and not 3-5 per project? That would accommodate large projects or projects with many sub-projects where expertise matters.
08:02:04 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : +1 to Pamela - 3-5 per repo
08:03:33 From jianguo zeng to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : should we set a percent restriction for committer/contributors?
08:03:55 From jianguo zeng : should we set a percent restriction for committer/contributors?
08:04:25 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) : +1 to request but mazin also has a point
08:04:53 From Pamela Dragosh : Maybe M1 is where we cull the list of current committers and remove inactive ones?
08:05:02 From Catherine Lefevre : Not enough committer is impacting our capacity to accelerate our delivery.
08:05:18 From Catherine Lefevre : i think a clean-up was performed prior PTL election?
08:05:31 From Bin Yang (Wind River) : yes
08:05:50 From Bin Yang (Wind River) : committer clean up, then committer election and PTL almost the same time
08:05:53 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : I don't really see the issue - they want to accellerate their work - lets support them - in other projects like in eclipselink/oracle - anyone that contributes is in
08:07:29 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : #agreed the 5 additional committers are approved
08:08:16 From Chris Donley : https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/Lab+Strategy
08:08:40 From Bin Yang (Wind River) : Thank you!
08:08:50 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : #topic Compliance and Verification committee
08:15:57 From Alla Goldner to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : India
08:16:19 From Alla Goldner to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : sory, was supposed to reply to Gildas :-)
08:22:26 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) to Michael Lando (Privately) : I’ve muted you
08:23:30 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : #topic documentation process end to end
08:24:56 From Bin Yang (Wind River) : echo to question: From Steven Wright to Everyone: 11:00 PM Are these committers tagged as component leads for the project within teh project JIRA?
08:25:44 From Bin Yang (Wind River) : Yes, I was intent to do so. I create the components for each plugin and not yet provision them with leaders
08:31:58 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : will retrofit readme, wiki, readthedocs, and deprecated older content in the Dec 2017 push
08:32:52 From Alla Goldner : have to disconnect, another meeting starts...bye
08:33:43 From Srinivasa Addepalli (Intel) : @Bin, it is good idea.
08:33:48 From Brian Hedstrom : I don’t see an ONAP Channel under the LF YouTube page for How To Videos on ONAP

Zoom Attendance Log

Action items

Phil Robb add doc writer to the LFN-TAC agenda - can/should ONAP partner w/ ODL's request?
Eman Gil work with TSC offline on Doc PTL needs

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