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Agenda Items

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Strategy (45 minutes)

ONAP takeaways


We are encouraging ONAP consumers to share with us their feedback, so we could prioritize our activities and make ONAP better suited their needs and requirements.

LFN Cross-Organization Updates

MAC, SPC, TAC, EUAG, LFN Board

Andreas Geißler 

AAF certificate issue for old ONAP releases:

TCC / ONAP Liaison Updates



Task Force Updates









Operations (40 minutes)


TSC Activities and Deadlines

Sandra Jackson (Deactivated)  from Sandra

Next task is the officer elections.

Next TSC Meeting (F2F) 

Sandra Jackson (Deactivated) to double check what day meeting will happen.

LFN Annual Report

From Pano:  "... we’re into the annual report production cycle and we’re looking for “year-in-review” input from the projects. we’d like to hear about successes, challenges and how they forged forward toward new horizons. please ask them to aim for about 1/2 to 1 page of single spaced text (use default google docs formatting) for monday nov. 13."

Respond to Pano Xinos:  pxinos@linuxfoundation.org 

Release Status

#AGREED: Does the TSC approve the recommendation to reschedule RC to Nov 23 and to reschedule Sign Off to Dec 14?

RelEng/Infrastructure

Dashboard https://jira.linuxfoundation.org/plugins/servlet/desk/user/requests?reporter=all


MFA proposal that was approved by the TSC last week has been fully implemented

PTL Updates

PTL meeting has been moved to LFX Project Control Center (PCC).

Subcommittee Updates

Arch, Lab, Modeling, Seccom, Requirements

Byung-Woo Jun ARCCOM approved CPS-Temporal removal, by following the unmaintained transition steps #9 and 10.

Events & Meetings

(5 minutes)

Upcoming Events & Housekeeping


PTL meeting canceled for Nov 13 and Nov 20


  • Zoom/Meeting Audit - we no longer have the need for the number of Zoom accounts ONAP is paying for and we will be moving to LFX meetings once we can grant meeting owners the proper access.  We need to audit the meetings/bridges and clean up both the calendars and consolidate the Zoom accounts in the very near future.

Zoom Chat Log 

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00:09:55    N.K. Shankaranarayanan:    #info N. K. Shankar, IC
00:15:10    N.K. Shankaranarayanan:    After the change to Standard Time, the ONAP TSC and OSC TOC calls are conflicting with each other. I will leave this call at some point to make a presentation in the OSC TOC call.
00:17:42    Byung-Woo Jun:    The ONAP F2F TSC meeting is scheduled on Thursday 16th
00:18:09    Byung-Woo Jun:    2PM in Hungary?
00:30:56    Sandra Jackson:    #VOTE: Does the TSC approve the recommendation to reschedule RC to Nov 23 and to reschedule Sign Off to Dec 14?
00:31:00    Byung-Woo Jun:    #vote +1
00:31:08    Andreas Geissler:    #vote +1
00:31:10    Keguang He(China Mobile):    #vote +1
00:31:14    Pawel Pawlak:    #vote +1
00:31:18    Dong Wang:    #vote +1
00:31:38    Dan Xu:    #vote +1
00:31:52    Sandra Jackson:    #End
00:33:06    Byung-Woo Jun:    @David McBride , I just sent email to Seshu for the SO milestone status. FYI…
00:38:36    Byung-Woo Jun:    @David McBride , also I contacted Fiachra for the DMaaP milestone status.
00:44:53    Toine Siebelink:    I have to drop, apologies


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Sandra Jackson: Good morning, darling, and what's the time? Syndrome? Hi, how are you?

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Dong Wang: Yeah, good

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Byung-Woo Jun: Sandra

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Sandra Jackson: like it. Now, can you hear me?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Alright? Can you hear me

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Byung-Woo Jun: can hear you.

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Sandra Jackson: Yeah, I can hear I'm just trying to get it in my ear piece, and it's not working.

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Sandra Jackson: Hold on.

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Sandra Jackson: And

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Sandra Jackson: okay, as folks are coming in, I'll just go ahead and get started with our regular reminders

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Sandra Jackson: that you are coming into the meeting and on mute. And if you need to unmute, you can dial star 6

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Sandra Jackson: to unmute if you're dialed in on a phone the meeting is being recorded, and that includes the chat messages and private chat messages.

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Sandra Jackson: and then a reminder of our antitrust policy.

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If you have any questions about it, you can reach out to your company's

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Sandra Jackson: legal.

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Sandra Jackson: or you can. If you're a member of the Linux Foundation, you can reach out to Andrew up to Grove

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of guesstimate of the growth. Lp.

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Sandra Jackson: okay, on the agenda for today.

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Sandra Jackson: Let me

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Sandra Jackson: to that

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Sandra Jackson: on the agenda for today. We have we'll see if we have any updates from Andreas on the aff certificate we have a couple of reminders coming up about nominations and etc., and then

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Sandra Jackson: our regular release status updates from David. and if we have anything from Berlin.

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Sandra Jackson: subcommittee updates, and then our regular housekeeping.

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Sandra Jackson: Is there anything that need to be added to the agenda?

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Or if there any questions.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, then let's jump into it.

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Andreas Geissler: okay. First on the agenda. II don't know if let me check and see if Andreas is here. Yep, he's here into

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Andreas Geissler: the things to in detail, because I'm too busy at the moment with getting the daily

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Andreas Geissler: chains back, running as a replacement for the gating. But we come to this later. I think so. No, no, updates.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, thank you.  I guess. My only question is this something that we should continue to track.

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David McBride: Is this still an urgent issue? Is this still a priority?

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Andreas Geissler: II would not put it here, so I think we can take it offline, and maybe

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Andreas Geissler: even in Ptr meeting, or wherever, but not here, I would say.

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David McBride: Okay.

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Sandra Jackson: okay, thank you.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright. Some deadlines coming up here. Wanna remind everyone that the Tsc chair nomination is open until November seventeenth. We have the Wiki page there, and it's the same process reply to the email. That was sent.

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Sandra Jackson: Believe it was the last week I could be wrong. Let's just see really quickly.

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Sandra Jackson: I don't see the date on this. anyway, the email went out. So reply to the original thread, please.

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and add yourself to the wiki.

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Sandra Jackson: And then following, the the

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Sandra Jackson: is sequential following the chair election, then to be the Co. Chair election, and then

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the officer's election.

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Okay, moving on to.

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Sandra Jackson: I don't remember putting this on here, the Tsc meeting to face the oh, oh, yeah, yeah, thank you. I do remember putting on here.

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Sandra Jackson: the, I just wanna make sure, because I was talking during a P. Planning meeting yesterday to Pabo, he thought that the face to face the next Tsc. Meeting was going to take place.

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Sandra Jackson: But we had different dates. I saw it marked for Monday.

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Sandra Jackson: and I think

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Sandra Jackson: when the next. When are we holding the next onap Tsc meeting?

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David McBride: Well, it should be on the event schedule. I don't know if that's available yet.

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Sandra Jackson: You know, David, you have it.

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Sandra Jackson: That was a good idea. I was just looking at over here when we had the upcoming agendas. But

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Sandra Jackson: Do you have access to the event schedule? Let me see. I don't know if I can get to it fast enough.

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Sandra Jackson: Hold on. Let me pause for a second.

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Sandra Jackson: Actually, would you mind checking that in the background cause I'm working with one screen. please.

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Sandra Jackson: and then we can come back to it.

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David McBride: Alright.

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Sandra Jackson: thank you, sir.

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Sandra Jackson:  What was the same? Oh, We'll move on to the Elephant Annual report

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Sandra Jackson: we are at that time where we do our annual report production cycle. And so marketing is looking to do their year and review. And they want inputs from the different projects.

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Sandra Jackson: So here we have that he wants to hear about successes, challenges and how you move

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Sandra Jackson: He's asking for at least a half a page to one page single space. You could use Google Docs, I think that our ownap project has a lot to contribute to that. So I just wanted to put that out there. And I think the deadline is this the deadline? The thirteenth

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Sandra Jackson: Monday to thirtieth?

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David McBride: Yeah, I I'm not. I just happened to see this bono

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David McBride: and I'm not sure why we didn't know about this sooner. But anyway, I they think this would be a good opportunity to promote

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David McBride: own app. And you know my suggestion not to put more on your plate, Bobble, but this seems like a Tsc chair

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David McBride: and maybe you could pull in, you know, beyond Andreas other

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David McBride:  senior folks in our community and put something together in the next couple of days. Would that be possible? Awful.

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Pawel Pawlak: or is it too much? I will try to do my best

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Pawel Pawlak: I'm pretty overloaded this weekend next week. But yeah, we'll try to produce some some draft and and ask maybe Tsc team for for support in in checking out if I'm not missing anything important. Okay?

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David McBride: Okay?

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David McBride: And you know, you know, pano, you have his contact info correct email?

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Pawel Pawlak: Not so sure. But, if you please, put it under the wiki. So in in any case

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Pawel Pawlak: I could

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Pawel Pawlak: share this food there with him right.

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Pawel Pawlak: That line is Monday. Right?

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David McBride: Correct.

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Pawel Pawlak: Hmm, okay.

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David McBride: And again, sorry for the short notice. But I just became aware of this yesterday.

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David McBride: and I. As I said, I'm not sure why we didn't know about it sooner. But

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David McBride: anyway, if if it's possible to put something together, and it is just half a page. So II think it would be helpful. For the project.

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Pawel Pawlak: Yeah, I will do. Do my best. And and that's it.

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Pawel Pawlak: Okay, understood.

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Sandra Jackson: And and we got the notice after we had already had our planning meeting pole. So just fyi

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Sandra Jackson:  But yeah, okay, thank you, David? And going back thank you. Bayong. he put in the chat that the TSC. Is actually on the sixteenth.

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Byung-Woo Jun: showing Thursday, yeah.

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Pawel Pawlak: Rescheduled into Wednesday. 2 pm. Okay. is it still still? Thursday?

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Pawel Pawlak: So Sandra, could you please check with Kenny? Because I don't know if it's just typo, or if if being also, you know, remember Wednesday.

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Pawel Pawlak: So somehow we are a little bit confused now.

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Sandra Jackson: No worries still do.

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Pawel Pawlak: Thanks a lot.

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Sandra Jackson: Thank you. Hold on. Sorry. Let me.

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Sandra Jackson: But then, as an action item for myself, give me a minute.

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Sandra Jackson: all right. Moving on. David, do you need to share anything.

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David McBride: Yes.

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Sandra Jackson: okay.

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Sandra Jackson: I'll stop sharing.

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David McBride: Okay, I've sent out a number of emails in the last couple of weeks.

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David McBride: making sure. Everyone was aware of our our C. Milestone today. And before we dig into the status, let's just remind ourselves about the schedule.

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David McBride: So see that we had our Rc. Milestone scheduled for the ninth with our sign-off coming up on December seventh.

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David McBride: Okay, in terms of the

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David McBride: milestone status. Let's just make sure we have the latest. So there was a big push this week

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David McBride: 16, which is over a third of the tasks.

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David McBride: are not done in particular. I have not had any feedback from Don Su.

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David McBride: don't you?

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David McBride: for cli and vnf SDK does anyone have any

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David McBride: idea about don shoes status? I know II saw her on a

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David McBride: Tsc. Call a week or 2 ago, but I'm not sure what her status is currently, but I've

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David McBride: have not received any feedback from her at all.

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David McBride: And then also Seshu with service orchestrator.

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David McBride:  and fiakra

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David McBride: So we have another number of projects here that

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David McBride: have not responded for the the Rc. Tasks.

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David McBride:  and so I'm inclined to say that we have not met our goals for Rc. And we'll have to slip to schedule.

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David McBride: So my suggestion is given that we have dntf next week. That's not a good week. To schedule milestone review. So I'm suggesting that we slip rc, by

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David McBride: 2 weeks out to the 20 third

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David McBride: and then move. Sign off at one week to the fourteenth.

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David McBride: and that's

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David McBride: in my opinion. That's about as late as we could push it. After that. We'll be getting into, you know, the time off that people take at the end of the year for winter holidays. So if we have to slip it again, then we're into January, I believe.

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David McBride: So. that's my recommendation. thoughts, questions.

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Andreas Geissler: any any communication plan you have to to, you know, to to reach out to those

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Pawel Pawlak: folks, to to have their feedback

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David McBride: yeah. All all I have is email. And in some cases, if you know, during these meetings.

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David McBride: if there are people that you know, our our colleagues that work with these folks, and then ask them to, you know, reach out to them

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David McBride: directly. But you know, I'm I'm kind of limited. And I've I've contacted everyone using their personal emails. Or I'm sorry their work emails.

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Pawel Pawlak: Okay.

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Andreas Geissler: just my, no issue

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Andreas Geissler: II agree to that proposal especially because we have at the moment, as I mentioned.

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Andreas Geissler: issues with, on one hand. Gating, we don't have a working gating at the moment as well as the daily is is is broken. Currently, I'm I'm working hard on that.

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Andreas Geissler: complete that in the next 2 weeks

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Andreas Geissler: I think it's good.

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Pawel Pawlak: Okay, thank you. Andreas

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Pawel Pawlak: guys, any objections?

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David McBride: Does anyone have any contact with Fiacra

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Byung-Woo Jun: to one end of my cell? Have contact with the piak, are we gonna ask, what's going on with the hey, Matt? We do.

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David McBride: Okay.

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Pawel Pawlak: thank you. Buying.

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David McBride: And also any anyone that has any contact with Seshu or Don's Don shu as well.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Don is here today.

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David McBride: Oh, is she?

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Dan Xu: Oh, sorry. I'm late. Yeah.

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David McBride: okay, yeah, no problem. Yeah. I just sent you an email earlier. We're doing the Milestone review. And I haven't heard from you regarding

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David McBride: Vnf, SDK and Cli.

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Dan Xu: Oh, oh, sorry I haven't seen the email, and I will check it tomorrow and try to fix it this week. Try to close this issue this week.

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David McBride: Okay, yeah, that would be. I don't know if you heard, but the the proposal is

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David McBride: because we have a number of open issues. To slip the Rc. Milestone 2 weeks to November 23.

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David McBride: Thank you. Thank you, don't you?

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David McBride: alright. So any other questions about the proposal. Andreas was in favor, and anyone opposed to the idea. So again, the

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David McBride: Okay, I'm good. With that. I'm good with that. Alright. I'll go ahead. Sandra, and put some

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, give me a second.

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Sandra Jackson: vote is open plus one, if you agree, minus one. If you disagree 0 staying, excuse me.

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Sandra Jackson: All right. I think we are good to go out into the vote. Save it. But

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Sandra Jackson: Yeah. Sorry. II put it in there in vote Yup

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David McBride: Okay, that's it for me.

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David McBride: Sandra.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright, wonderful. I'll take it back.

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Sandra Jackson: Can I share my screen? Yeah.

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Sandra Jackson: alrighty. Thank you all.

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Sandra Jackson: It's out of my way.

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Sandra Jackson: moving down to revenge. I put the what I'm calling the dashboard on here.

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Sandra Jackson: I think maybe, David, you all cover this in Ptl. As well. But I'm not sure if you cover this week. So just checking. Do we have anyone from Neil Berlin's team here? Do we have any updates.

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David McBride: interested to hear what Tsc members think. But my suggestion is that we keep this to the Ptl. Meeting. And then, if there are any, you know, significant issues that crop up, you know, blockers or anything, then we bring those up in the Tsc meeting.

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Toine Siebelink: Sorry. Nope, sorry. Can you hear me?

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Jessica Wagantall: No, no, no, you're you're right. And I remember, it was probably not too late that not too long ago, probably like. Do you remember we did a test. We then Oj. Ojsi ticket that whether you can. You personally could access it and or you couldn't. And we confirm that we we did feel testing not too long ago. I believe it was like maybe a month, or may, or maximum 2 months ago, where we readjusted

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Jessica Wagantall: right? Right? Right? And we we did that readjustment not too long ago. It was probably like a month ago or so. So if you personally remember being able to access an Ojsi ticket without being part of the Ojsi group. You might be right, you might have been able to, but at that time, but then we caught that issue and we readjusted the permissions.

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Sandra Jackson: if you want to test it on me, I don't know if I'm on a list or not. Maybe we could do that later, Jessica.

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Sandra Jackson: David, did you have anything else to say about the Mfa.

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Toine Siebelink: Okay, then, yeah, thanks for that, David. And then II go ahead based on that with it to gold application for for cps, because that that was to get and call of all of this.

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Toine Siebelink: That that this wasn't working, and therefore we couldn't say that's but I think your your feedback for the dial in there. We'll we'll work on that basis. Thanks very much.

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Sandra Jackson: Next is what the Pto update.

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Sandra Jackson: which is short, I think, basically, I think I can cover this one, David, that the Ptl. Meetings and I think you sent out an email as well are now

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Sandra Jackson: And the good thing about the having it managed in the Lfx. Tools is that you don't have to give someone hosting rights to share. So it's as simple as if someone is sharing. And you need to share, they just stop their share, and everyone can share. So

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David McBride: Oh, and and this will we, we agreed, cancel the meeting on the thirteenth and the twentieth. So this will. You'll see this for the first time on November twenty-seventh.

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Sandra Jackson: All right, any questions.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And this following the on maintenance tradition steps. So we are number 9. I reviewed the diagram changes and and also wikipedage changes gone by to line, and I review that. Then I approve that, and we approved it. And then that passed on to Steps 9, and then also

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Byung-Woo Jun: based on that they can move to next steps, for Jessica removes Jenkins job, you know other follow up. So anyway. So I sent an email to

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Sandra Jackson: Okay? Then we'll move into our housekeeping. David already mentioned it, but I'll mention it again that the Ptl. Meetings for November thirteenth and November twentieth are canceled.

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Sandra Jackson: We have the one summit regional day coming up in India, November thirtieth, that is hosted by emphasis.

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Sandra Jackson: As soon as next week we'll be at our face to face in Budapest. So topic. Submissions are closed now. The deadline has passed, but we still have the convention the visa request there if you needed.

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Sandra Jackson: also. It's not down here, but just to remind you that the chair election I'm a chair nomination close November seventeenth. So please, if you want to nominate to be chair. Reply to the original email, thread

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Sandra Jackson: and get that in, preferably before the seventeenth will be in Budapest at the time. But please get your nominations in

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Sandra Jackson: going twice. Okay, well, if there's nothing else, I thank you all for your time, and we'll see you well, I'll I'll circle back with Kenny, and I'll send the email to

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Sandra Jackson: So thank you and have a good day. Good evening.

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Andreas Geissler: Good night. Thank you.

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Sandra Jackson: Thank you.

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Keguang He(China Mobile): But bye, bye.

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Pawel Pawlak: I'm still.