13:46:18 <kennypaul>#startmeeting tsc-2018-04-0513:46:18 <collabot> Meeting started Thu Apr 5 13:46:18 2018 UTC. The chair is kennypaul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:47:09 <kennypaul>#chair SteveT, phrobb13:47:09 <collabot> Current chairs: SteveT kennypaul phrobb
13:47:19 <kennypaul>#topic rollcall13:58:05 <kennypaul>#info Alla Goldner, AMDOCS13:58:13 <Srini>#info proxy Srini Addepalli, Intel13:58:34 <cdonley>#info Chris Donley Huawei14:01:46 <frankbrockners>#info Frank Brockners, Cisco14:01:52 <kennypaul>#info Murat Tupcu, Turk Telekom14:02:04 <xinhuili>#Info Xinhui Li, VMware14:02:37 <gilbert>#info Mazin Gilbert, AT&T14:02:54 <ningso>#info Ning So, Reliance Jio14:03:12 <JasonHunt>#info Jason Hunt, IBM14:03:20 <RannyHaiby>#info Ranny Haiby, Nokia14:03:51 <SteveT>#info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson14:03:57 <Sanchita>#info proxy Sanchita Pathak, TechMahindra14:05:29 <phrobb>#topic Agenda Bashing14:06:27 <phrobb>#topic Admin topics14:06:47 <phrobb>#info China Telecom will host the June Developer event the week of June 19th14:07:29 <SteveT>#info China Mobile will host the June F2F meeting. Appreciation expressed.14:07:38 <phrobb>#info intermintent build system issues have been reported and addressed. Things should be running well now.14:08:36 <phrobb>stevet: China Mobile?... Not China Telecom?
14:08:59 <phrobb>#topic Feedback from ONS14:09:02 <SteveT>#info Correction: China Telecom is hosting the June F2F meeting14:11:22 <EricDebeau>#info Eric Debeau, Orange14:13:13 <ma_c>#info proxy Marc-Alexandre Choquette, Bell Canada14:24:06 <EricDebeau>#info volunteer to analyze TSC feedbacks and provide some solutions14:25:15 <phrobb>EricDebeau: your pound-info comment is meant as you volunteering?
14:25:49 <EricDebeau>#info phrobb: yes14:26:00 <phrobb>#info kennypaul walked through feedback he has received during conversations at ONS.14:27:40 <phrobb>#info From discussion TSC will have a "tiger team" meet to work through feedback provided. The meeting is to be open and publicized so that anyone in the community can participate.14:28:05 <phrobb>#info EricDebeau volunteers to be part of the TSC tiger team14:28:42 <phrobb>#info Mazin suggests that we ensure that China is represented in this effort.14:29:23 <phrobb>#action gilbert volunteers to reach out the Lingli of China Mobile to see if she is willing to participate in this effort14:29:55 <phrobb>#action kennypaul to share Bitergia statistics for committers and PTLs14:31:30 <phrobb>#info comments of affirmation on the problems are expressed. These issues are hampering the functionality of the community and introducing significant delays14:31:41 <phrobb>#topic Integration Status14:33:17 <phrobb>#info helenychen walks through her slide deck14:50:15 <kennypaul>#action kennypaul status of IM system.14:53:07 <kennypaul>#topic Beijing Release status14:53:31 <kennypaul>#info Gildas reviewed his slides14:54:25 <kennypaul>#info dmaap-buscontroller de-scoped for beijing14:57:22 <kennypaul>#info extapi, usecaseui, aaf and dmaap did not pass M414:59:47 <kennypaul>#info vvp (not quorum last week so not passed ) seeking FOSS waiver , no line code coverage, CSIT pending15:00:26 <kennypaul>#info vvp gpl license issue15:04:00 <kennypaul>#info s3p commitments from M1 are basically complete15:06:28 <kennypaul>#action gildaslanilis to set up a call to dfiscuss aaf & dmaap15:07:06 <kennypaul>#topic TSC Composition Proposal15:09:28 <kennypaul>#info proposal based upon OPNFV's model15:10:44 <kennypaul>#info 15 members, additional seats for platinums that joined <12 mo15:11:07 <kennypaul>#info can't miss more than 2 meetings w/o proxy15:11:57 <kennypaul>#info voting criteria based upon any type of participation15:12:14 <kennypaul>#info Chris is reviewing the slides15:12:32 <EricDebeau>#info documentation (redathedocs) is managed via gerrit15:15:32 <kennypaul>#info discussion over thresholds for "active" metrics15:16:25 <kennypaul>#info discussion over technical expertise as a requirement15:18:08 <kennypaul>#info mazin recommends 50% operator participation15:19:03 <kennypaul>#info recommends 1 rep per company15:24:03 <kennypaul>#info recommend voting criteria based upon onap-tsc/ onap-discuss participation15:25:58 <kennypaul>#info mazin will not support w/o 50% carrier15:27:19 <kennypaul> # jamil raises concern of timing - chris responds that the charter amendment did not pass and June is the deadline
15:27:55 <kennypaul>#info jamil raises concern of timing - chris responds that the charter amendment did not pass and June is the deadline15:30:21 <kennypaul>#info dioscussion of timing and vote15:33:41 <kennypaul>#info discussion of vote and request for commitment that all TSC members vote15:34:35 <kennypaul>#info questions of charter - no ratification needed, amending as needed is appropriate.15:35:06 <kennypaul>#action phrobb will set up dedicated meeting next week15:36:29 <kennypaul>#action kennypaul provide results of last vote.15:36:48 <kennypaul>#info discussion of EUAG15:39:49 <gildaslanilis> Proposal for Casablanca release timeline is poste din wiki at https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/Release+Planning#ReleasePlanning-CasablancaRelease for every one comments and suggestions.
15:41:33 <kennypaul>#topic casablanca timeline15:42:05 <kennypaul>#info provide feedback to gildaslanilis15:43:03 <kennypaul>#info deadline and vote next week tsc15:44:24 <EricDebeau>#info We spent too much time on admin topics while we are hot technical topics to solve collectively (eg AAF)15:46:43 <kennypaul>#info quick introduction of Murat Tupcu the new TSC rep for Turk Telekom and EricDebeau as the new TSC rep for Orange.15:46:53 <kennypaul>#endmeeting
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07:12:47 From Kenny Paul : https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=8226464 07:31:52 From Tal Liron (Red Hat) : Thank you, TSC members, for taking this feedback seriously. I intend to send the community a long list of constructive suggestions soon. 07:33:28 From Mazin : Thanks Tal. We welcome all suggestions to expedite success of ONAP and ensure a diversified community. I would appreciate your participation and involvement. 07:34:36 From Mazin : How is the WindRiver sale announcement impact our ONAP Labs? Anyone know? 07:34:52 From Michael O'Brien (Logging) : Michael O'Brien can be added to the feedback meeting - Or I will join when it is posted 07:35:33 From Murat Turpcu ( turk telekom ) : i will join the feedback meetings 07:42:08 From Brian : 24/30 in SB07 - thanks jimmy ! 07:42:25 From Ramki Krishnan : Looking forward to join the feedback meetings - ramki from VMware 07:42:42 From Brian : oom issue is some internal k8 dns kind of configuration error as best we can tell 07:44:56 From Michael O'Brien (Logging) : Yes, currently retrofitting k8s scripts around helm and config improvements put it - following readthedocs to do this 07:45:55 From ALLA GOLDNER : Kenny, are there more concrete details about June meeting in Beijing available? 07:49:02 From Tal Liron (Red Hat) : Another open source suggestion for chat software: Matrix.org (with the Riot.im client) 07:54:16 From Dominic Lunanuova (AT&T) : Hello, I think it is data router , not busconroller 07:54:26 From Dominic Lunanuova (AT&T) : that is descoped 07:54:27 From ghellman : Hi Guys, It is Gil from Wind River. Our sell will not impact the ONAP open lab 07:55:17 From Srinivasa Addepalli (Intel) : Thanks Gil. That is something I was also asked. Thanks for this confirmation. 07:56:27 From Kenny Paul : June F2F June 19 - 22, 2018, Beijing, Hosted by China Telecom 08:19:48 From Fred Oliveira (Verizon) : Verizon intends to be very active and contribute code to various ONAP projects. We would like to be considered for a position on the TSC even though we haven’t made many contributions to date. 08:21:47 From Stephen Terrill : Fred, thats great! I think there was two provisions for this, 1. there is still time before any election would occur. 2. There was a provision for ones that have just joined. 08:25:24 From Jason Hunt : didn’t that vote also have many TSC members not vote? I’m not sure the result reflects the TSC’s opinions 08:26:46 From Steven Wright : Suggest to have a wiki page with (1) consolidated list of voters eligible for an election and (2) a mechanism for individual participants to see where they standa against these voter eligibility criteria. 08:27:28 From Ramki Krishnan : Besides wiki, we should include "high quality email discussions" -- wiki is only one of the means of communication 08:28:23 From Srinivasa Addepalli (Intel) : It would be good if voters vote for companies. Let companies choose the representatative. Does that work? 08:34:40 From Murat Turpcu ( turk telekom ) : we did not vote and we will actually do next time 08:36:16 From Frank Brockners : ... can we do a timecheck? 08:38:18 From Gildas Lanilis : Proposal for Casablanca release timeline is posted in wiki at https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/Release+Planning#ReleasePlanning-CasablancaRelease 08:38:32 From Gildas Lanilis : for everyone suggestions and comments. 08:38:49 From ALLA GOLDNER : Gildas, I commented during ONS that I propose to move Usecase approval to the end of April 08:39:04 From ALLA GOLDNER : the present timeline is not realistic, considering the progress achieved by a different teams 08:39:15 From ALLA GOLDNER : and also lack of prioritization input 08:40:43 From Gildas Lanilis : Thanks Alla for your comments.