PTL's are now burdened by the +2 rule when they need to make
immediate fixes - usually jenkins/sonar related
experiment with getting usually jenkins/sonar/release issues going
weekend/TZ 2nd committer not available
need to triage jenkins issues without a 12h+ turnaround on each commit
Discussed in PTL meet this monday - by consensus
I was going to do a slide - but I find that a read-only way to put up editable content.
Original hardening of the commit rules was proposed by me on TSC 2018-03-15 - at the time a PTL exception was not fully discussed.
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13:52:59 <kennypaul>#startmeeting tsc-2018-05-2413:52:59 <collabot`> Meeting started Thu May 24 13:52:59 2018 UTC. The chair is kennypaul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:53:39 <collabot`> Current chairs: SteveT gildaslanilis kennypaul phrobb
13:53:53 <kennypaul>#topic rollcall13:57:08 <SteveT>#info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson13:59:07 <kennypaul>#info Lingli Deng, China Mobile14:00:10 <RajeshGadiyar>#info Rajesh Gadiyar Intel14:00:34 <Xiaojun>#info Xiaojun Xie, China Telecom14:00:42 <xinhuili>#info Xinhui Li, Vmware14:00:44 <Susana>#info Susana Sabater, Vodafone14:01:15 <EricDebeau>#info Eri Debeau, Orange14:01:16 <RannyHaiby>#info Ranny Haiby, Nokia14:01:27 <JasonHunt>#info Jason Hunt, IBM14:03:30 <gilesheron>#info proxy Giles Heron, Cisco Systems14:03:39 <gilbert>#info mazin14:04:01 <kennypaul>#Yoav Kluger, proxy , AMDOCS14:06:47 <cdonley>#info Chris Donley Huawei14:07:49 <SteveT>#topic Housekeeping14:08:17 <SteveT>#info ONAP maillists are planed to move from mailman to groups.io on june 20.14:09:44 <SteveT>#info Jira federation. Would like to be able cross reference tickets. Call for any concerns?14:10:38 <kennypaul>#info Murat Tupcu. Turk Telekom14:12:06 <SteveT>#info The jira federation will be delayed to after the Beijing release (2 weeks)14:13:56 <SteveT>#info Reminder about request for internships14:14:41 <kennypaul>#topic release management14:14:57 <kennypaul>#info @gildaslanilis reviewed his slides14:16:31 <kennypaul>#info artifacts - email helpdest w/ the link to the daily version14:17:10 <kennypaul>#info review CSIT and daily build failures14:17:46 <kennypaul>#info drop in new defects founf14:21:16 <kennypaul>#info release notes 1 file contains all history. - new info needs to be appended14:21:50 <kennypaul>#info document new functionality and known bugs14:22:21 <kennypaul>#info gildas will assist with vulnerability docs14:22:55 <kennypaul>#info Catherine asks comunnity to verify install instructions.14:23:20 <kennypaul>#topic integration update14:23:40 <kennypaul>#info helenychen reviewed her slides14:24:33 <kennypaul>#info PLEASE free up your lab resources if you are finished or not using them14:27:59 <kennypaul>#action kennypaul move ptl meeting to tuesday the 29th14:28:53 <kennypaul>#info helen asks for contact info for all projects for weekend coverage14:30:38 <kennypaul>#info one each fails HEAT and OOM test14:30:48 <kennypaul> ?#info both vfc
14:32:56 <kennypaul>#info resiliency testing an track for meeting level 1 & 2 requirements for OOM14:33:29 <kennypaul>#info 72 hr burn in passed with HEAT14:35:54 <kennypaul>#info vFW & vDNS passed, vCPE one last test to pass, VoLTE is close14:37:21 <kennypaul>#info manual scaling VF-C - requirements gap identified by project team - to be fixed in Casablanca14:38:18 <kennypaul>#info change management- blocked on SO publish event to DMaaP14:38:26 <kennypaul>#info having daily calls14:40:05 <kennypaul>#info manual scaling will not be considered part of Beijing14:41:08 <kennypaul>#info issue was xfunc requirements regarding info getting passed to APPC not socialized between projeuct14:41:43 <kennypaul>#info is not an issue with APPC14:44:50 <kennypaul>#agreed manual scaling with VFC will be in Beijing. manual scaling with APPC will be in Casablanca14:50:45 <kennypaul>#info HPA testing on HEAT - once done it complete. if issues with OOM, not an HPA issue.14:51:21 <kennypaul>#info Ramki suggests patch release. Alex agrees.14:55:37 <kennypaul>#info maturity testing - stability blocked by new SDNC issue14:55:51 <kennypaul>#info resiliance also14:56:05 <kennypaul>#info stsability after re,ease14:56:48 <kennypaul>#topic Known Vulnerability Analysis14:57:00 <kennypaul>#info all projects have passed review14:57:17 <kennypaul>#info will be a template for release notes14:57:44 <kennypaul>#info SteveT reviewed his slides14:59:47 <kennypaul>#info PTL Self Commit15:00:29 <kennypaul>#info see comments on TSC meeting minute wiki15:00:53 <kennypaul>#info need ate least one person that can do a self commit per peoject.15:15:27 <kennypaul>#info much discussion regarding technical, secutiry, and timing of channging this15:16:25 <kennypaul>#info may impact CII badging15:20:23 <kennypaul>#startvote Does the TSC approve temporarily allowing the capability for all registered committers to self commit for 3 weeks with the policy of only being exercised by the PTL under exceptional circumstances for Highest Priority bugs? +1, 0, -115:20:23 <collabot`> Begin voting on: Does the TSC approve temporarily allowing the capability for all registered committers to self commit for 3 weeks with the policy of only being exercised by the PTL under exceptional circumstances for Highest Priority bugs? Valid vote options are +1, 0, -1.
15:20:23 <collabot`> Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.
15:20:30 <cdonley>#vote +115:20:36 <EricDebeau>#vote +115:20:40 <kennypaul>#vote +115:20:47 <RannyHaiby>#vote +115:20:54 <SteveT>#vote +115:20:56 <kennypaul>#info my vote representing Catherine15:20:59 <gilesheron>#vote +115:21:16 <Xiaojun>#vote +115:22:56 <gildaslanilis>#vote +115:23:21 <gildaslanilis>#info Gildas voted for Yoav Kluger15:24:33 <phrobb>#vote +115:24:41 <Srini>#vote +1 (on behalf of Rajesh, Intel)15:24:41 <collabot`>Srini: +1 (on behalf of Rajesh, Intel) is not a valid option. Valid options are +1, 0, -1.
15:25:00 <phrobb>#info phrobb votes for Murate Turpcu of Turk Telecom15:25:04 <Srini>#vote +115:25:05 <xinhuili>#vote +115:25:21 <Susana>#vote +115:25:41 <helenychen>#vote +115:25:58 <kennypaul>#endvote15:25:58 <collabot`> Voted on "Does the TSC approve temporarily allowing the capability for all registered committers to self commit for 3 weeks with the policy of only being exercised by the PTL under exceptional circumstances for Highest Priority bugs?" Results are
15:25:58 <collabot`> +1 (13): Susana, Xiaojun, phrobb, gilesheron, xinhuili, SteveT, Srini, helenychen, kennypaul, cdonley, gildaslanilis, RannyHaiby, EricDebeau
15:26:00 <phrobb>#info Helen Chen votes for Lingli Deng of China Mobile15:26:09 <helenychen>#info Helen's vote is for Lingli (China Mobile)15:26:28 <kennypaul>#agreed TSC approve temporarily allowing the capability for all registered committers to self commit for 3 weeks with the policy of only being exercised by the PTL under exceptional circumstances for Highest Priority bugs15:27:17 <kennypaul>#action kennypaul open ticket15:27:53 <EricDebeau>#info For Integration and OOM project, we face some issues due to a lack of committer sin Europe zone and we may loose time to correct some bugs.15:29:16 <kennypaul>#topic documentation15:29:45 <kennypaul>#info getting linkcheck fixed is highly important15:29:59 <kennypaul>#info jiras being opened15:33:06 <kennypaul>#topic Casablancadeveloper event15:33:42 <kennypaul>#info registration is low - please register for the event so that we can plan accordingly.15:33:51 <kennypaul>#endmeeting
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06:58:35 From Lingli to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : Hi Kenny 06:59:42 From Lingli to Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) (Privately) : thank you Kenny 07:01:51 From Jason Hunt : Unfortunately, I can only be on for 45 minutes… happy to respond to any votes via e-mail. 07:04:53 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) : hi kenny i am here 07:14:13 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : I’ve logged you Murat 07:15:44 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : link to groups.io slides https://wiki.onap.org/download/attachments/25434845/What%20is%20Groups.io_%20Quick%20feature%20guide.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1527165725000&api=v2 07:17:41 From Michael O'Brien (Amdocs, Log) : I moved a couple defects to C* 07:19:45 From Pamela Dragosh : Release jobs will fail because STAGING is NOT available anymore. When you upgrade a SNAPSHOT version to get ready for artifact release this is a side effect. 07:27:10 From Michael O'Brien (Amdocs, Log) : 9-10 EDT GMT-4 07:27:57 From Bin Yang (Wind River) : Pausing the instance does not release any resource for others, please remove them whenever possible to release resource to Integration team 07:30:25 From Brian : Also - if you dont need your openvpn session - log off - we have hit the max sessions several times this week 07:30:49 From Brian : blocks develoeprs dropping in to help troubleshoot/debug 08:00:46 From Lusheng Ji (ATT) : I tried to shelve VM instances from CLI successfully, seeing the state becoming shelved and offloaded. I understand this would release resources but still keep the VM. But I never succeeded in unshelving these VMs. Any suggestions? 08:07:07 From Marcus Williams (Intel) : I think self-commit is a horrible idea. It's a substitute for relationships between committers, or not having enough committers and opens up a lot of code quality issues for expediency sake. 08:07:45 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : #startvote Does the TSC approve allowing a PTL committer the capability for a self commit? 08:07:56 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : NOT A VOTE YTET 08:11:05 From Don Levy : will there be any checks on the process? 08:11:27 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : Does the TSC approve temporarily allowing PTLs the capability for a self commit for 3 weeks ? 08:17:42 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : Does the TSC approve temporarily allowing the capability for all registered committers self commit for 3 weeks? 08:18:27 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : #startvote Does the TSC approve temporarily allowing the capability for all registered committers to self commit for 3 weeks with the policy of only being exercized by the PTL? 08:19:33 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : Does the TSC approve temporarily allowing the capability for all registered committers to self commit for 3 weeks with the policy of only being exercized by the PTL under exceptional circumstances for Highest Priority bugs? 08:20:14 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) : can create a policy to check the self commits in a week or so 08:20:30 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) : or after this 3 weeks 08:22:32 From Michael O'Brien (Amdocs, Log) : +1 08:22:36 From Yoav Kluger (Amdocs) : +1 08:24:06 From Murat Turpcu ( Turk Telekom) : +1 08:24:32 From Susana (VF) : +1 08:24:50 From Lingli : +1 08:30:23 From Michael O'Brien (Amdocs, Log) : dropping for other call - thanks guys