Discussion to solidify the agenda for the Virtual Developers event.
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13:59:07 <kennypaul>#topic rollcall13:59:58 <kennypaul>#Alla Goldner, AMDOCS13:59:58 <JasonHunt>#info Jason Hunt, IBM14:00:29 <Dhananjay_>#info Dhananjay Pavgi, Tech Mahindra Ltd14:00:58 <xinhuili>#info Xinhui Li, VMware14:01:17 <RannyHaiby>#info Ranny Haiby, Nokia14:01:30 <frankbrockners>#info Frank Brockners, Cisco14:01:37 <SteveT>#info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson14:02:07 <kennypaul>#chair phrobb14:02:07 <collabot`> Current chairs: kennypaul phrobb
14:02:09 <amir_levy>#info Amir Levy, Cloudify14:02:13 <Zhaoxing>#info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE14:02:19 <amir_levy>#info Amir Levy, Cloudify14:02:20 <cdonley>#info Chris Donley Huawei14:06:35 <phrobb>#topic Agenda Bashing14:09:30 <EricDebeau>#info Eric Debeau Proxy Jamil Chawki, Orange14:11:03 <kennypaul>#topic ONS discounts14:11:37 <kennypaul>#info criteria for subcommmittee discounts will be wiki updates14:11:50 <kennypaul>#action phrobb to send note to that effect.14:18:00 <kennypaul>#topic schedule14:18:32 <kennypaul>#action kenny schedule M2 review 2 hrs on Feb 1214:20:49 <kennypaul>#vf2f Chris D, Catherine, Alex V, Gildas14:21:31 <kennypaul>#info vf2f schedule committee Chris D, Catherine, Alex V, Gildas14:25:16 <kennypaul>#info add aaf to the schedule14:27:38 <phrobb>#info several projects request education/tutorial on how to use AAF at the Virtual F2F14:27:42 <kennypaul>#topic release review14:27:58 <phrobb>#topic Beijing Release Status14:28:19 <kennypaul>#info requested criteria aded to the M2.14:28:34 <phrobb>#topic Integration Team Update14:33:07 <kennypaul>#undo14:33:07 <collabot`> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x1dd3290>
14:33:22 <kennypaul>#topic VVP subcommittee proposal14:34:02 <kennypaul>#info Erik discussed the proposal that was previously emailed ot eh TSC14:35:43 <kennypaul>#info discussion of the timing of the creation14:36:20 <kennypaul>#info global governance needed14:37:09 <kennypaul>#link https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1626654714:38:20 <kennypaul>#info have been challenges as a project - focus for a release dore not map to a governance model14:39:25 <kennypaul>#info belief that this is one of the 1st thins the LFN TAC will want focus on14:41:40 <kennypaul>#info intent would be to keep the Project as defined in case tools are needed14:42:01 <kennypaul>#info overall clarity is needed14:43:31 <kennypaul>#info governance would be committees focus. If code is needed that would be applied in a project context14:44:30 <kennypaul>#info will subcommittee both create and manage VVP?14:45:08 <kennypaul>#info not in the current definition14:46:26 <kennypaul>#info part of the VVP project scope changes14:48:44 <kennypaul>#info no VVP in Amsterdam14:49:32 <kennypaul>#info community alignment is needed to leverage VNFSDK for validation.14:51:03 <kennypaul>#info validation scrips would need to move to vnfsdk14:53:43 <kennypaul>#linkhttps://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1623167914:53:53 <kennypaul>#link https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=1623167914:54:29 <kennypaul>#info original VVP project proposal - approved version is 2514:58:52 <kennypaul>#info recommendation to vote next week.14:59:46 <kennypaul>#info discussion of alignment of discussions at ONS.15:02:48 <kennypaul>#info governance model is in the scope of the original project proposal.15:03:59 <kennypaul>#info the activities around defining govenrance does not align to Release milestone checklists.15:04:31 <gildaslanilis>#info As a community we have not reviewed nor approved the M1 deliverables for VVP in Beijing release.15:07:39 <kennypaul>#topic infrastructure review15:12:38 <kennypaul>#info helen reviewed the slide deck15:14:09 <kennypaul>#info requesting new domain name tests.onap.org and VM to hosts15:16:35 <kennypaul>#info discussion around why this would be a new vm?15:17:51 <kennypaul>#action, helen, phil kenny to take requirements to LF IT15:21:45 <kennypaul> topic Run Time Catalog Project Proposal https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/lxKK9NuS/image.png
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15:22:16 <kennypaul>#info Run Time Catalog Project Proposal15:23:22 <kennypaul>#info recommendation that this should be a subproject of sdc from the Arch Subcommittee15:24:02 <kennypaul>#info too late for Beijing? Focus on Casablanca?15:26:30 <kennypaul>#info concern from Arc Sub was of code cutting over at once rather than phased15:26:54 <kennypaul>#info need harmony between design and runtime aspects.15:29:53 <kennypaul>#info more discussion is needed before voting - no consensus.15:32:28 <kennypaul>#info to be added as a discussion topic for next week.15:33:19 <kennypaul>#action kenny/phil send out info on project goals and puit on TSC agenda for next week.18:14:18 <kennypaul>#endmeeting
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06:10:43 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : removing myself from the wiki 06:17:42 From Pamela Dragosh : There are a lot of sessions, almost too many. Can we have these VF2F to cover a smaller subset of topics and get bigger audiences for those? Topics that are most pressing. 06:19:37 From Pamela Dragosh : +1 free beer 06:20:43 From Dhananjay Pavgi : :) Agrred, Pam. 06:21:18 From Dhananjay Pavgi : Agrred = Agreed. Typo. 06:29:02 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : I get the same popup 06:29:09 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : trying my mac 06:29:31 From Lingli : me too 06:29:38 From Brian Hedstrom : My ZOOM update took about 10 seconds 06:30:13 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : mac not as well - updating version - thanks Kenny 06:30:26 From Brian Hedstrom : I’m on MAC 06:37:22 From Kenny Paul : VVP proposal link https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=16266547 06:41:33 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : example: need a list of incoming/outgoing CIDR security rules for an ONAP deployment - to pass to IT/OPS - writing it up in draft https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/ONAP+Deployment+Specification+for+Finance+and+Operations 06:42:12 From Vimal Begwani : Should it be named NF Validation, to include PNF package vadilation in its scope? 06:53:59 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : Very sorry team - need to drop off audio at 1000 (GMT-5) - as have 3 other meeting conflicts - will monitor the screen in case logging-analytics questions come up - on my other machine 06:54:13 From Dhananjay Pavgi : Agree with Vimal. From Beijing rel onward, PNF support being incorporated. 06:54:50 From Dhananjay Pavgi : But, how do we validate PNF? What guidelines do we follow. 06:56:02 From Kenny Paul : https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=16231679 original project proposal - approved version 25 07:11:36 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : Amazon spot VM - min $116 US /month 72-85% off 07:11:37 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/ONAP+Deployment+Specification+for+Finance+and+Operations#ONAPDeploymentSpecificationforFinanceandOperations-AmazonAWS 07:12:16 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : I have onap.info registered - we can use 07:12:53 From Brian Hedstrom : Why not just create a subdomain on the existing domain? 07:13:16 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : $500 is on demand 07:13:23 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : 350 is reserved - 1 year 07:13:33 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : 300 is 3 year reserved 07:13:45 From Eric Debeau : we have onap.org under the LF. We can use a subdomain 07:13:56 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : spot gives you a 2 min warning on VM going back to spot market 07:14:01 From Brian Hedstrom : Correct, there shouldn’t be any additional costs 07:14:04 From Helen Chen : yes, would like to with onap.org 07:14:20 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : this is for R4.2xlarge (64G, 8vCore) 07:14:42 From Brian Hedstrom : If this is just creating new webpages on a subdomain, why is a VM needed since onap.org is already hosted 07:14:51 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : Amazon corporate has donated 2 VM's to us as of last friday 07:15:29 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : 64 g for the CD server under test 07:15:30 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : http://cd.onap.info:8880/env/1a7/kubernetes/dashboard 07:16:58 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : I like John Ngs tab on https://jenkins.onap.org/view/External%20Labs/ 07:17:02 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : good idea 07:17:15 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : good idea for Helens ask 07:17:44 From Lingli : +1 07:18:07 From Brian Hedstrom : Keep in mind that LF might need to increase their hosting plan (not sure what type of hosting they currently use) 07:19:38 From Michael O'Brien (Log) : I can work closely with the LF - on their AWS details (have 2 years exp). For Azure ramping up on ARM right now