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Meeting Minutes
Table of Contents maxLevel 2
Previous Meeting Notes
Srinivasa Addepalli
As part of ONAP4K8s, we have done some work in R4 and we are working ìDistributed Application Orchestrationî in R6.
In R4, we showcased deploying CNFs & VNFs (firewall use case) and normal applications on the same cluster from ONAP.
Also, Akraino ICN project is bundling ONAP4K8s.
Glad to see wider interest in deploying CNFs from ONAP in remote K8s clusters.
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What type of orchestrator changes do we need?
Links:
https://wikilf-onap.onapatlassian.orgnet/wiki/display/DW/Multi+Cluster+Application+Scheduler
https://wikilf-onap.onapatlassian.orgnet/wiki/display/DW/ONAP4K8S+profile
Ranny Haiby
#1 Define benefits of ONAP for CNFs - what are we trying to solve with CNFs?
i.e. Control Loops, Provisioning/Modeling, etc
#2 Scalability/Reliability - deep dive to be truly K8S oriented
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The different use cases are highlighting a similar architecture i.e. (VID)/SDC/SO/MC etc being involved in the call flows. Additional guidelines are required by the Architecture Subcommittee
#1 CNF ClearWater IMS
#3 ETSI-Aligned CNF Support - Honolulu
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- Discussions about 5G PPP - XMEC (Extended Mobile Edge Compution) - open source software stack, facilitating automated analytics-based deployment of MTC-related and utility-centric VNFs.
- Latest OVP PH2 updates - ONAP Workstreams - https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/OVP+2.0+Boot+Strap
- Shall we document our three "First Initial Guilin Use Cases" (WS07): https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=34603941
- Trevor Lovett - Updated on OVP 2.0 Requirements Workstream (material)
- Discussion about CNF Scaling
- Features/Capabilities Mapping Table i.e. Onboarding/Provisioning; Performance; Network Intefaces etc.
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- Feedback from OVP PH2 - Ryan Hallahan, Ranny Haiby, Trevor Lovett
- Latest discussions - any update from June 1st, 2020 that we should consider as part of this ONAP Task Force? Main discussions about CNCF conformance.
- Any update about
- Probably not high priority for the Guilin Release - waiting feedback from Former user (Deleted)Jira Legacy server System Jira serverId 4733707d-2057-3a0f-ae5e-4fd8aff50176 key REQ-339 - Workstream 7 - expectation to provide a bi-weekly update
- Any update from Ranny Haiby , Alla.Goldner regarding how to shift from POC to Release Requirements? (Ongoing)
- Service Mesh POC including documentation and results while providing awareness through the different forums.
- Creation of a new CNF sub taskforce focusing on Modeling/Inventory led by Seshu Kumar Mudiganti , Andy Mayer + AAI SMEs
- Initial Considerations:
- What do we need to modelize, store as artefacts in ONAP to support these CNFs
- How Service Assurance, Control Loop and who will be able to consume it?
- Genericity will be key in order to avoid customization per CNF
- CNF used by Samsung 4G/5G Mobile Packet Core - presentation during the DDF June event - Plenary - Reference CNF development journey and outcomes
- Suggestion: cFW, CNF "free5GC" from Akraino, Samsung 4G/5G as a starting point - https://www.free5gc.org/
- Add Fernando Oliveira, Byung-Woo Jun , Michael Salmon, Ranny Haiby , Eric Multanen , Ritu as part of the Modeling/Inventory sub-task
- Meeting organized on Friday 12.30pm UTC
- Initial Considerations:
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- Prepare our bi-weekly status for OVP PH2 meeting - WorkStream 7 - https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=34603941
- Any special feedback, additional support from our ONAP CNF Modeling/Inventory task force?
- Request to get ONAP Architecture, Requirements Subcommittee representatives attending Friday call at 12.30pm UTC - https://zoom.us/j/98408415989
- Wiki link: CNF Modeling Activity; Recordings also available
Feel to add any agenda topic on a weekly basis on CNF Modeling/Inventory Meeting - Tomorrow: 2020-06-12: CNF Modeling Meeting - Do not add any further info under REQ-341
June 18th, 2020 at 1pm UTC
- No ONAP CNF meeting on June 25th, 2020 (LFN DDF Virtual Event)
- Any feedback from OVP PH2?
- WS07 was presented (except CNF Security)
- OVP Validation (WS05) - ONAP (SO, VF-C teams) will initiate the testing (provisioning), the ONAP requirements will write the tests based on functional reqs/use cases.
- CNF requirements to be provided by ONAP community to be used for the E2E CNF Testing. Need to identify people from ONAP Community
- Need to consider from ETSI perspectives as well
- OVP PH2 is about E2E Testing/CNF Badging - suggestion is to remove WS07 and to maintain WS05 to highlight our ONAP contribution (how to use ONAP + ONAP testing tools)
- Inputs can be provided to WS01, WS02 in terms of requirements
- CNF Modeling/Inventory
- ETSI CNF Modeling effort will contribute to this Task force. Separation between ONAP (A&AI/Modeling incl. ETSI CNF) and CNCF from an Inventory perspective => main topic on June 19th at 12.30pm UTC - https://zoom.us/j/98408415989. Opportunity to procvide close loop feedback to ETSI
- Any Helm Chart information (under finalization) during the DDF event - Date/Time will be confirmed
- Meeting will be canceled on June 26th
- Introduction of technical review/Assessment of K8S plug-in (after Guilin Architecture Review) performed by the ONAP Architecture Subcommittee, identifying any additional ONAP value on top of K8S; considering ETSI-Aligned CNF Support - Honolulu and how to make workflows for internal and external VNFM as similar as possible.
- Review on remaining action items
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- Consolidate our inputs to build our ONAP proposition value to collaborate with XGVela Community
- XGVela Telco PaaS Definition: https://github.com/XGVela/XGVela/blob/master/doc/Telco-PaaS-definition/TelcoPaaSDefChart.md
- The XGVela meetings are bi-weekly. No meeting this week
- ONAP as the defacto Open Network Automation platform for VNFs/PNFs supporting 70%+ of Global wireless subscribers and therefore ONAP will play a role as part of XGVela eco-system
- Orchestration (SO+Controllers)
- CNF/Control Loop (Inventory)
- Control Loops mechanisms/Observability (DCAE VES Collectors/Policy + CLAMP)
- Onboarding (CDS/SDC/VID)
- Alignment with SDOs i.e. ETSI, MEF, TM Forum
- Integration with VNFS/CNFS/PNFS → Link with OVP PH2
- Any Feedback from OVP PH2 Meeting
- Presentation made by Former user (Deleted) on 7/13. No preparation expected for the next meeting planned on 7/27
- Pending results of CNF Inventory/Modeling discussion
- Usecases under discussion
- Discussions about "Resource status" from K8S - to be continued
- No ONAP CNCF TCC candidate - It will be discussed during ONAP TSC today to suggest that this task force is taking over
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August 6th , 2020 at 1pm UTC
- CNTT Survey: https://forms.gle/wwyyam8aPGNYRTv79 => Survey for carriers/vendors. Will be discussed during ONAP TSC (8/6)
- Any update from CNF Modeling/Inventory task force
- Trying to get feedback on 2 use cases ) 'Healthcheck' path to be discussed on August 7th and presented on ONAP CNF call on August 13th, 2020
- ONES NA panel discussion topic (prep on presentation) - https://ones2020.sched.com/event/bWQk/panel-discussion-onap-and-cloud-native-the-best-of-the-two-worlds-catherine-lefevre-att-alla-goldner-amdocs-srinivasa-addepalli-intel-ranny-haiby-samsung-timo-perala-nokia?iframe=no&w=100%&sidebar=yes&bg=no
- Presentation sheduled on Tuesday, September 29 • 11:15am - 11:45am EST?
- Agenda/Items to highlight during this talk (30 mins)
- Introduction highlighting ONAP value proposition (Catherine, Timo)
- Where are we today (Catherine?)
- Link with CNTT/OVP PH2/CNCF - RA chapter 2 (Ranny)
- Link with SDOs i.e. ESTI (Byung, Fred)
- What have we implemented so far? (Seshu)
- Deep Dive on ONAP CNF Orchestration (Seshu, Lukasz)
- ONAP CNF Roadmap (Merge with the first bullet? Catherine?)
- Check if any relevant LFN whitepaper, publication should be added at the end of the slides, demonstrating cross-collaborationship
- Draft to be shared to this forum on August 20th, 2020
- 1-2 slides per topic
- Agenda/Items to highlight during this talk (30 mins)
- Action Item - Try to identify where we are on the CNCF Trail Journey
- It is related to our Cloud Native Compliance regarding the picture above i.e. Step #1 Containerization; Step #2 CI/CD; etc.
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- ONAP Value proposition (Alla, Srini) - 1 slide (5 mins) -9/3: In progress
- Cross-Community Collaboration:
- How we fit to the CNF Landscape? (Ranny) - 1 slide (5 mins) Slide:CNF_Taskforce_ONES2020_Link_With_External_Workgroups_v2.0.pptx
- How we integrate with SDOs? (Fred, Byung) - 1 slide : Slide: ONAP For ETSI SDO-2020-09-03-v2.pptx
- Roadmap (Past, Present and Future) (Timo, Seshu, Lukasz) - 1 slide ( 5 mins) - 9/3: In progress, ETA Monday 9/7. ONAP CNFO Roadmap.pptx
- Dry-Run: Sept 10th - 6am PST - CNF Task Force call
- Slides readiness + Moderator's questions: Sept 8th or earlier
- Speaker Pre-Record Session: 9:00 am - 10:00 am Central Daylight Time (UTC -5) - Mon., 09/14/2020
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- ONES Presentation - review of the presentation
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Extension of Guilin:
ETSI-Aligned Orchestration & Onboarding (see above presentation) - Byung-Woo Jun and Seshu Kumar Mudiganti will fill the table entry based on use case analysis (REQ-334 extension)
Continuity of Guilin requirement - REQ-341 - Seshu Kumar Mudiganti will fill the table entry
CDS Native CNF Configuration - sub task of REQ-341 Lukasz Rajewski and Seshu Kumar Mudiganti will fill the table
Any new requirements? (deadline for new requirements is October 12th 2020)
Invite a rep from Aarna to share their experience from building the ONES 5G cloud-native demo - Seshu Kumar Mudiganti will reach out to Amar Kapadia.
Feature candidate - Auto discovery of K8S clusters - Kamel Idir will discuss with Seshu Kumar Mudiganti to better explain the expectations.
We should reach out to the requirements subcommittee (Alla.Goldner) to see if we need to provide them with any input. (cl664y@att.com reached out to Alla
SDC is short on developers - There is a need for support from community members - Looking for a developer with some SDC expertise.
Short term - urgent need for someone to support the current release - cl664y@att.com will raise this with the TSC.
This is a long term task. New developers could be groomed for the coming releases. Lukasz Rajewski and Seshu Kumar Mudiganti will refine the ask to help "sell" this inside member companies.
Oct 1st , 2020 at 1pm UTC
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- Review feedback collected during the LFN Fall Event
- https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/2020-10-14+-+ONAP+Honolulu+-+CNF+Task+Force+Requirements
- Question: How can a software vendor decide which "path" to use for CNF orchestration - The ETSI path and the existing SO path? A: There will be a translation between the formats. There is an attempt to align the model between the two paths.
- The following subcommittees will start to adress this questio:
- Andy Mayer - Resource Call on Monday, 9am EST, 4pm CEST ; 1pm UTC
- Byung-Woo Jun , Fernando Oliveira - ETSI Task Force on Monday, 8am EST, 3pm CEST ; noon UTC
- People outside the ONAP Community are not aware of what is happening in ONAP since the ONAP Frankfurt Launch
- (Bi)-Monthly ONAP Newsletters
- Create a blog to entertain our CNF activities
- ONAP Big Win
- Thinh Nguyenphu (Unlicensed) is inviting the ONAP Community to present our ONAP CNF Orchestration activities (Lukasz Rajewski , Seshu Kumar Mudiganti )
- Thinh Nguyenphu (Unlicensed) will review the material provided by Lukasz Rajewski and let us know if it is sufficient to kick-off the discussions with ETSI org
- Clock Change in EMEA i.e Sunday October 25 and in NAR i.e. Sunday, November 1, 2:00 am
- Next week - only 30 mins starting at 1.30pm UTC
- Poll to define new day/time for the upccoming weeks.
- Honolulu Requirements:
andJira Legacy server System Jira serverId 4733707d-2057-3a0f-ae5e-4fd8aff50176 key REQ-458
- https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/2020-10-14+-+ONAP+Honolulu+-+CNF+Task+Force+RequirementsJira Legacy server System Jira columns key,summary,type,created,updated,due,assignee,reporter,priority,status,resolution serverId 4733707d-2057-3a0f-ae5e-4fd8aff50176 key REQ-334
Oct 29th , 2020 at 1.30pm UTC
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Action Items (Closed in 2020)
- Follow-up with Jill to update the panelist since Alla.Goldner , Srinivasa Addepalli are no more participating to ONAP CNF Task Force
- ONES CFP - Srinivasa Addepalli will work with Alla.Goldner on the abstract - Key item - "the value that ONAP can bring"
- Kenny Paulset up doodle pole for meeting cadence and 2 or 3 per week
- Check with Kenny, David - how to record our upcomign discussions?
- Attend the next VNFReQs meeting and to discuss the extension of the team's scope - Trevor Lovett - was discussed during 3/12 - CNF Part 2
- Follow-up with SECCOM about CNF Security reqs
- Define our First Use cases and identify CNFs
- Check with the DCAE project regarding any study about Prometheus, Jaeger + specific VES to support CNFs
- Seshu Kumar Mudiganti to upload the "SO enhancements to support CNF" presentation
- Kenny Paul , create a recording section and add the recordings (2x 3/12, 1x 3/29)
- Kenny Paul to update the ONAP Calendar - 1 session per week after the TSC Call
- Sylvain Desbureaux - Start to work on our ONAP response to Dan (CNCF)
- Any additional volunteer to participate to the OVP PH2 Workstreams
- Trevor to update the presentation on the WS02 workgreoup and integration insights
- Andy Mayer Fernando Oliveira to review ETSI CNF Support
- ONAP4K8s presentation from Srinivasa Addepalli - made during LFN Event on 4/22
- Prepare the next OVP PH2 meeting (WS07) for the joint session on April 23rd, 2020 at 1pm UTC cl664y@att.com , Seshu Kumar Mudiganti , etc
- Identify SDC SME to support upcoming session to deep dive SDC
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(Ranny) - enhance the Cloud Native Definition with "Containterized Network Function" on slide #1 (Done - See Cloud Native Definition_TF_With_Containerized.pptx attached under May 14,2020 meeting)
- (Catherine) - Ask David to reschedule ONAP CNF Task Force every Thursday at 1pm UTC (until clock changes in the Winter)
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Investigate how AAF can be optional? Guilin Requirement has been created -
Jira Legacy server System Jira columns key,summary,type,created,updated,due,assignee,reporter,priority,status,resolution serverId 4733707d-2057-3a0f-ae5e-4fd8aff50176 key REQ-363 - Identify AAI SMEs to support upcoming sessions to deep dive AAI
- (Catherine): Follow-up with Trevor Lovett , Ryan Hallahan about WS05
- (Catherine): Check with Rabi to add WS07 to the main diagram
- (Catherine): Follow-up with Alla & Requirements subcommittee to get participation to CNF Modeling/Inventory task force
- (Andy): Send an invite to onap-tsc, onap-release, onap-discuss, onap-modeling
- (Fred; Byung; Seshu and Ranny) to update WS07 before OVP PH2 Call
- (Seshu): Follow-up with Former user (Deleted) concerning WS05 OVP PH2
- (Seshu): Create a new REQ-394 dedicated to Modeling/Inventory, marked it as POC
- (Ranny): Discuss with Alla.Goldner about how to shift from POC To Release requirements (plan established for Service Mesh)
- (Ranny) - exploring another CNF that we could use for Guilin. Follow up on free5gc.org following Srinivasa Addepalli's lead.
- (Seshu) to investigate about "free5GC" open source - agreed to put on hold this action
- (Seshu) Connect with Milind Jalwadi (Unlicensed) regarding the TechM PoC on CNFs
- (Seshu/Lukasz ): Create the user stories per component for REQ-341
- (Seshu) Mitigated plan in case of ESR will move to Maintenance, to be documented - Aarna will not be able to work on ESR in Guilin. Workaround - If ESR is not present in Guilin, use Postman instead.
- Fill in the table - how we complement each other
- (Chaker): Technical review/Assessment of K8S plug-in (after Guilin Architecture Review) performed by the ONAP Architecture Subcommittee, identifying any additional ONAP value on top of K8S; considering ETSI-Aligned CNF Support - Honolulu and how to make workflows for internal and external VNFM as similar as possible.
- Add the actual zoom details of the XGVela in this wiki page (Kenny Paul )
- (Catherine): Follow-up with Gergely (Nokia) about XGVela - technical discussions on 7/30? No response
- Kenny - Check if there is any ONS template. The template is being finalized. We can share it as soon as it is complete
- Check with Ranny Haiby about which topic he would like to participate
- (Catherine/Sylvain) Consolidation our message about ONAP Role - should be linked to our ONAP Response to CNCF TUG Lead. Ranny agreed to be our CNCF ONAP liason
- (All): Participate to the Fall event poll - https://lists.onap.org/g/onap-discuss/message/22200
- (Ranny): Present our CNF ETSI ONAP proposal to ESTI org
- (Kenny): Upload CNF Task Force recordings - CNF-Taskforce 2020 Recordings
- (Brinda) to follow-up with the ONAP Architecture about his ONAP Cloud Native transformation proposal
- (Kenny): Some attachments appear as "Unknown attachment"