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Paweł Pawlak: Hello! Good morning.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Hi, Pablo! Hi, Mul! Hey. Mr. Luis?

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LJ Illuzzi: Hey, folks? Yeah, this is yes. Hi, yeah, quick. Update. Sandra had an emergency. So I was asked if I could cover the meeting for today. So here I am.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Okay, I see. I see. Okay, thank you for joining us. Oh, absolutely, of course.

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LJ Illuzzi: If if somebody can send me a link to the meeting minute the agenda, that would be great.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Okay, I can send you to. Okay, yeah, you could drop it in the chat if you'd like. Yeah, I'm doing now. So perfect. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): I just did. This is the was Sandra made. And I updated for some topic. And so anyway, so

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LJ Illuzzi: okay, great

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): sorry we can't.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Umhm. Okay, no problem.

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LJ Illuzzi: The one item I'm seeing from Sandra, the Lfn Cross organization updates. Absolutely. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Can you? Can you share? Can you share the meeting? Note?

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LJ Illuzzi: I can. Yes, I can. Yeah. Give me 1 s.

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LJ Illuzzi: do you? Do you typically start with the anti-trust policy

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): user to them? Yeah, okay, like that. Yeah.

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LJ Illuzzi: So Hi, everybody. I am filling in for Sandra for this week. she, she has some kind of an emergency. I don't have any details. but I was asked about 10 min ago if I could.

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LJ Illuzzi: cover this meeting. And I'm happy to do that. So let's start, and I'll I'm sorry my name is LJ. Luzzy, I am with the Linux Foundation networking, and I am a technical community architect. Some I know

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LJ Illuzzi: lot of you folks on the call

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LJ Illuzzi: we start. Community meetings are reviewing the Linux Foundation anti-trust policy. The policy is important where multiple companies, including potential industry competitors, are participating in meetings.

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LJ Illuzzi: Please review the policy, and if you have questions, contact your company legal counsel. members of the Lf. May also contact Andrea up to Grove, affirm Jerry Smir up to Grove, Llp.

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LJ Illuzzi: Which provides legal counsel to the Lf. Alright.

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LJ Illuzzi: So here's the agenda.

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LJ Illuzzi: And

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LJ Illuzzi: again I'm pretty pretty fresh here, so I'm not gonna be able to do the Lfn Cross organizational updates that was on the agenda for Sandra. So I'm gonna hand it off to you. Folks. Go on mute and just let me know how I could help.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): next topic. Tcc, on a reason update. I put Pabo your name because II reason I'm saying is, last week, we inform Tsc members about this. But you, you know, have suggestion. So any okay, pabu, you can.

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Paweł Pawlak: This is our regular policy that we support

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Paweł Pawlak: n, minus one release. Right?

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Paweł Pawlak: So even if we have a situation that there is a problem, if A. F certificates for some older releases.

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Paweł Pawlak: We cannot.

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Paweł Pawlak: We we are unable to support multiple releases back.

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Paweł Pawlak: So as stated here. So

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Paweł Pawlak: all honor releases prior to London are broken because of this issue with Af. And and the our consumers are are encouraged.

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Paweł Pawlak: Persuade, persuaded, or you know.

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Paweł Pawlak: or even forced to move towards London plus right. This is this is the message.

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Paweł Pawlak: And this is our policy for multiple releases back. So this is really not nothing new for for the onup community.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): So that means power, though. We don't have to do any special app because we have a default policy for supporting N minus one on it releases

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): so documentation architecture. Come, II changed the Wiki page, I indicating this, but we don't have the special announcement because we we do our business as usual, because currently we have we working on the New Daily. But once you're London is N minus checkpoint action point, we don't have to do anything right.

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The only thing that we could do is maybe to draft

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Paweł Pawlak: some some dedicated email message

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Paweł Pawlak: to our consumers. the ones that are not participating in the TSC. Just to inform them that. Okay, we have this situation. So if they are not running

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Paweł Pawlak: London plus.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): then may they may experience some difficulties with this af certificate expiration, right?

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Paweł Pawlak: Maybe just just. You know, the best would be to to have everyone participating actively. But there are some

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Paweł Pawlak: consumers that are not that much actively participating and and just to to let them know that this is something that that we observe, and in the remedies to to upgrade simply.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): we'll send it to owner discussion

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): or some other other channel.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Which email are the address or groups we want to send.

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Paweł Pawlak: To be honest, I don't know. Maybe I could check if the the consumers that we have in mind.

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Paweł Pawlak: I'm thinking about the spark New Zealand right

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): communication. They already know about this, but the email will be better communication, maybe.

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Paweł Pawlak: and

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Paweł Pawlak: I don't know about Canada. What is the status on their side

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Paweł Pawlak: because there is no I

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): kind of successor. Well, China, mobile, China telecom, they know very well because they contribute. They. So we have team members

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Paweł Pawlak: working with us at the T sea level. So

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Paweł Pawlak: I'm sure this is nothing nothing new for them. I'm only thinking about the ones that that we we know that

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Paweł Pawlak: are using on up consuming it right? And they joined our our

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Paweł Pawlak: Tc last year to to present their feedback. So we know that they are using it. And and I think it's good to to simply let them know. Right?

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Okay, okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Okay, we can discuss offline, you know, who's the okay? Okay next, Louise, can I share my screen? The just? If you don't mind.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): you can stop sharing. I can share my thank you. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Let me know if you see my screen.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Okay, this one kind of acting release manager on behalf of the Pride, for now.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): So the update last week we asked to update the project status. And I noticed the Pto. They started updating project status key updates and benefit. Thank you so much.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Here, if we click this. And this is the

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): many of the you know, active, you know, active Pto, and they updated their project chart version and stats state, and then, active or not, I'm going to add some additional check, and they already there. Thank you. And also

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): they start the feeling of the

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): the key updates and benefit. Okay, so you will come if you don't have any changes. And they just put the note changes like Fiakra, dmf.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): so we're, gonna you know.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): talk to Peter next Monday meeting, and they can do so if they have no changes, they just send up with no changes. But they, we need to know this information to forming the to form the release content matter later on. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): okay, that's the one. So

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): the other one II was. I wasn't the meeting. And then someone asked about the What's the name of the old release after a new daily I think the we agreed to name it. Oslo. Is that correct? Yeah. Oslo will be the, you know. I just put a note here because to refresh our memory. But we stole Oslo. So okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Andrews, I put some edge a pt, update. I put this one, and then you can lead us, Danny's here. With Andrews Andrews, you can.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Yeah. So that that is unfortunately, not here. Okay.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): yeah. So

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Andreas Geissler (DT):  yeah. So I mean, II noticed that or I have told that already, a couple of weeks ago, a month ago, even in the time when we had

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Andreas Geissler (DT): the Montreal release. That the Sdn C could not be updated because

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Andreas Geissler (DT): Sdn C in the stnc one interface was disabled or removed, which was to be one interface.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): This was used by.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): I think, all of the clients it's mostly it's so and or the most critical one is SO,

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Andreas Geissler (DT): and what I wanted to now coordinate together with our team, which would like to

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Andreas Geissler (DT): correct or to to now implement the changes needed for the new or the the the changed interface.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): We wanted to arrange some some meeting together with the Sdn. C. Team.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): but I cannot get hold on on Dan or someone from the call centric team who is doing usually the implementation

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Andreas Geissler (DT): not not the code. No, not sorry. Not quote centric. the team High Street debt, High High Street technology, I think, was doing it.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): So I sent mail. II check tried to get him via slack, but at the moment no reaction. So he's also not here today.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): So we start. We will start to investigate what to do. But I think there. So our we suspect that there will be also some changes still needed in Sdn. C. As we have seen it.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): But anyway, we want to co coordinate that now. And to get a newer release of Sdn see into the own up deployments. So otherwise we are stuck with the one basically from

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Andreas Geissler (DT): the London release. Yeah. So the official or, yeah. So the London release is also the Montreal release and but we could not up, as it could not be updated. As I said, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): So we wait for Dan. And then if someone can contact, then so I'm gonna send separate email to Dan and then CC engine. And then we need to resolve this one. We need a new interfaces. I'm gonna read this way for now. So Action Point and you are already doing it. So

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): I'm going to put coordinate you already doing is send the email on twent, and just waiting for

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): confirmation from Sdn. C. Danielsi kimoni. So we'll see. Okay, thank you. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Next one. Can you debrief a little bit about this. See? Icd.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Angeles, I cannot hear you.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. I had. Or we have reviewed, or I'd read review the suggestions and the findings from Luis Lee. And and I created

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Andreas Geissler (DT):  page actually to collect all the to collect the feedback. And I just before this meeting. I sent him back a mail

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Andreas Geissler (DT): with our findings and our let's say, feedback. So let's say there there is not. So

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Andreas Geissler (DT): there is a couple of interesting parts which he has found, but which are partly already solved in the new release.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): And yeah. So basically,

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Andreas Geissler (DT): as I said, we gave feedback, and sent him. Now the link to our page which we have created just can put it into this, into the

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Andreas Geissler (DT): chat, the link so that you can add that. Then to the

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): okay, okay, if you put the chat. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): okay, that's good. Let me put this here. Okay, thank you. So here.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Just a comment. Thanks, thanks, Andreas, for for creating the page. I think

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: it's good to have this sort of documented

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: and and and like you said you, most of the comments are probably not new to you. But

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Andreas Geissler (DT): but it's it's important feedback that someone's yeah. Yeah. I totally agree. It's always valuable, valuable feedback, and it's good to get that information.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): I mean what already what we had also. Now, we got also now, feedback in in the Om meeting

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Andreas Geissler (DT):  from Tata which we are hopefully trying to also include into the deployment and into the changes and even Tata, most likely or hopefully, will also contribute their changes and their improvements of the code. So so we had this, and last week. A presentation

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Andreas Geissler (DT): from the group. And they will then hopefully, then also try to improve our code and our

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): yeah deployment. Yeah, I think that they can use from Tata, I think. Most likely. They gonna start officially contribute to also.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): But we are still talking. If they can do anything for new Delhi. But they anyway, they're gonna share their what they have done

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): with Andrew. So we know some. And you know, input. So once they they already share the day the architecture and enhancement slide for security and the logging blah blah blah!

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): So that's good thing. And then I think that they are still working their enhancement internally. Then, once they internally sorted out, then they can, you know, contribute to own it to me, I guess the most likely so

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): possible. That's my thing. Is that my understanding correct, Angie?

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Andreas Geissler (DT): Yes. So that's the plan. But if we have already some enhancements which would be useful beforehand. We are maybe try to

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Andreas Geissler (DT): include that even if they are not contributing it actively, but they want to share some

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Andreas Geissler (DT): some improvements they have done, and maybe then I can incorporate that, even if they are not actively

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Andreas Geissler (DT): But let's see, so Oslo, is there perspective where they can

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): by themselves, then, have some resources available for us? Yeah. So once they share that, you know they are already sharing with you that you can schedule your phone or enhancement. I think that's a good thing. Okay, good.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Anything else. There's no main.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Who's the main int of contact for this? And Tata, who's keeps track of awareness.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): which which content

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): for for Tata, a person, Matthias, he's the main guy something like that. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): you can check in the Oom meeting. He's the one present.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): So we're gonna move on to next one. Andrew, if you don't have any additional comments. Is that okay?

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Andreas Geissler (DT): Yep.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): okay. So stop company. Update. Second, the I think any open an Lfit ticket for Github vulnerability issues. I think, Jessica.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): she responded. I think she has some. Probably. Jessica. Could you elaborate?

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Jessica Wagantall: Yeah, it's mostly potential security attack when related to via Github credentials. But we brought this in in the release engineering team. And this should not affect us. Since

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Jessica Wagantall: credentials for organization, ownership are given just internally and anything related to job triggers or Github actions are handled via a different credential that doesn't have organization rights. It just has repo ripple permissions.

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Jessica Wagantall:  internally, the credentials are still rotated every time. We get to know about any data leak or whenever something else changes in the organization. So I think we should be going on this.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Hmm, okay, thank you. You know, II put as a result. Thank you. Jessica. Okay, thank you very much.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Next item,

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Akom. Yakra, he's Pto of the Dmap, and we discuss this matter with him, and also in oem with Andrew. So he initiate the Dmap message router that this you know, he initiate the application in New Delhi

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): by following the unmaintained project. Tradition step one. I'm gonna show you in a minute.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): And the step 2 and 3 and 4, our come oem have found impact project and some dependencies. So analyzing the impact. So

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): so Pto should analyze their project impact for new daily how to remove the decouple or Dmf Mr. From their project if they can. So, based on this condition outcome conditionally approved.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): So this is the kind of impact you know, depends on impact. This is the kind of owner of the pricing mechanism. We we review that. And then this is additional

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): item we need to discuss. Excuse me, excuse me. So I just put the conditional approval.

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Approved this, based on the impact on Pto, so at next Monday we're going to discuss about this Ptos.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): if they can do or not. So then, based on the they can do. If they can do, remove the dependency from

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): New Delhi, then we can safely duplicate the amounts. That's the current plan. If you look at this.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): we are following this on, maintained the project the retirement and tradition. So as a first step the Pto Fiacra. He initiate this pro application process and the informed outcome. And then I send the separate email to second, and the second should be moved. The audit, you know, the review.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): one for Cps and the other. you know the one of the components. So we know how to do it. So basically, okay, so that's what we are going to do so here.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): good, but we have to still have information from Ptos. Andrew. Do you have any other? Some more details? Yeah.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): which which was sent beforehand, but just create a new one.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): so in. And so I know that the the the policy component is already working on that.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): So this one the Stc. We don't have Pto. we have 2.

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Andreas Geissler (DT): And actually, though, if it's great, you doing a 9% years. So anyway, I know that I know that Stc had done something. But there's still, one small thing I have think has to to be done. But I'm not 100% sure, because I know that they have done some

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): and creating cheetah ticket. That's great. That's great. So once all the impacted project under the relationship and dependency sort it out. We can process next steps. That's the plan. But Theakra initiate the

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): So I'm gonna Pablo, I'm gonna talk this at the next Tuesday

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Paweł Pawlak: the second. And then if you have any concern from security perspective. We can, you know, address to is that right?

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): And then also, the you know outcome. We plan to work with the second and an OM. For security enhancement for a new daily. And then I think Andrew has some plan.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): and then also we are studying about AI. A IMA. Very security. So still a very beginning stage. But since the

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): in new daily China, mobile China telecom, they, and also how way they put a lot of intent based AI based the the transformation and also configuration optimization for orchestration. So we as part of the trend we are starting the aim. Everybody security, too.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Okay, and the Medusa. And then Pablo and the Emmy and Maggie and Tony there we are working. We know this issue. So okay, so and we're gonna I'm gonna work with the second for this, too. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): okay, so should I back to you. Probably. Can you address about the upcoming event and housekeeping?

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): II put in this Tsc activity, is there? Okay? Or you want? I don't know if you've seen the communication. But Kenny's moving

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Paweł Pawlak: this person joining us right. Hmm! We had a very long er good good experience with with Kenny from the from the very beginning of this project.

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Paweł Pawlak: So I don't know, guys. If you plan, please check for the for the agenda for the only summit, but it will be the Dtf. For the my

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Paweł Pawlak: and and then to propose those topics. I'm not sure if he have already some deadline for submission. It's a bit too early. But but we started at the second some discussion on on the topics you'd like to to cover. We have already some small list.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): to consider it. Great good comment. Pablo, for information yesterday, Sandra

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): and Donwong and the myself. We talked about this one, and then, Sandra, I think, she said, she will follow up. What's the deadline for the topic suggestion.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): And also we need to have a program what? The manager, I think team, will he volunteer last one? But, he said, there will be last one. So we need to find some other person to handle to. You know, the programming manager. So okay, we can discuss for the next time.

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Paweł Pawlak: By the way, because this meeting on on Wednesday appears to in my calendar

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Paweł Pawlak: probably 1 h too late. Right? That's why II when I drink yesterday. In fact, I think it was really after the meeting.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Right? Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): alright. You run through. We run through the old items for the agenda.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): success or full successor of of David sounds good to me. Okay, okay. Alright, that's it.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Talk to next Wednesday again, Pablo, with you.

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): maybe. Pablo, yeah, thanks. How are you?

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): It's on here.

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): I was talking to Matt. We had an issue the last 2 days with the bills we needed some new dependency in the Github actions

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): now that has been resolved. But I asked Matt either as part of the same tickets, or maybe as a part of a new ticket. And maybe this is something we can discuss in more detail on Monday

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): or next Thursday meeting. I don't think the Github actions job should block

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): the the delivery. So at the moment, if the Github action fails

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): we cannot merge the code in in garret. We have. So we have verified jobs. We still have to all the verified jobs we have in the garret.

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): and when they pass that that's basically that should be the criteria they pass. Then then the patch should be allowed to merge. But get up actions. It's just kind of a an extra check if the the same verification would pass and get up actions as well.

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): But since we've introduced it, there has been about 4 or 5 different issues that weren't directly related to the normal bills.

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): But they did block us from emerging. So I've asked, can we do something about the git of action blocking

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): the the normal bills. Can we have a way to overrule it, or can we make sure it's not not a condition anymore, anyway, that's the ticket I would like to discuss, or something I want to follow up on next week.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Do you have a ticket number?

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): Yes, it's kind of related could be one. You can. You can send me offline because I'm gonna write the agenda for Pto. So 3 topics. So

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): you know Andrew's copy, and then also the DM Dmap, mo.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): and then your your topic. Okay, if you give me one more minute or not seconds, it's in this chat. Now. So you should.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): okay, copy link. Okay, okay, I do that. And then run the the pt, here next Monday. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun (Ericsson): Okay, yeah. That's it for me. Okay.

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Toine SIEBELINK (EST): hey? Thanks. Everybody. Have a good day.

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LJ Illuzzi: I'm just back next week.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you. Thank you. Bye.