NOTE: Comments Due by 20 OCTOBER 2017.

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Adolfo Perez-Duran: ONAP members have different degrees of familiarity with modeling terminology, SDOs and previous modeling efforts. Either expand acronyms in-line or provide a glossary.

Lingli Deng Glossary should be recommended to be part of each of the output working document for IM/DM. But not sure we need one for this one. It would be expected to be consumed by ONAP modeling designer/implementers within the modeling subcommittee.

The Principles section focuses on "what" foundations need to be followed as part of the ONAP Modeling effort, while the Guidelines section focuses on the plan for "how" to achieve the goals described in the Principles section and identifies best practices that may be applied.

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Alex Vul - Backward compatibility between releases is a MUST HAVE. Simply saying that we will "attempt" it is not good enough. Modeling requires up-front end-to-end planning and a backward compatibility strategy. We must have one as well, as part of this document.

Lingli Deng - Backward compatiblity is nice to have, but considering we are actually extending existing implementation in R2 to support more features, it might not be wise to be bounded with absolute "backward compatibility".

Michela Bevilacqua - backward compatibility guidelines to be progressed. What must be backward compatibility and how should be clarified .

3-  Keep the distinction and consistency between Information model and its data model representation(s).

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Alex Vul - This needs to be a bit more precise. While the mapping between the names and types of the model elements and element attributes may or may not be exact, the arrangement and the hierarchy of the information model elements can be very intentional and specific, and such needs to be maintained and carried over into the data model representation. For example, the hierarchy of the IFA011 information elements and the attributes they contain is very intentional and should be preserved within the data models.
lishitao - I think for hierarchy is also may or may not , right? we need to looke at the model case by case. Alex Vul - agree.

Lingli Deng - Thanks for the discussion, guys. I take the conclusion is not to dictate the hierarchy defined in the IM to be maintained by the DM. Thanks.

b)  DM are pruned and refactored from IM

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Former user (Deleted) - our modeling architecture would be better based on implementation other than ONF spec

4-  The Information Models and Data Models from this effort should be applied across ONAP projects.

Alex Vul - We should say that the function and operation of the ONAP management platform is predicated on use of a single, common information model,

Lingli Deng - I believe they are the same thing from different perspectives.

5- The modeling team should not define the feature requirements, but take requirements derived from use cases or architecture as input.

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The modeling subcomittee will be responsible to maintain the IM and any common (TOSCA) constructs in GitHub.

Lingli Deng - Suggest to add this statement to Modeling Subcommittee Charter.

Lingli Deng Suggest to keep it out, according the previous comment and discussion.

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Michela Bevilacqua . I agree 

andreik. I agree and I believe that 4,5 and 8 should be handled together because they have much in common

Lingli Deng - Let us rephrase it to allow for new definition from our effort. VNF descriptor is a good example.

5-  Identify the gaps in either information modeling (in terms of information elements) or data model (in terms of types/constructs) we need to fulfill the functional/non-functional requirements derived from the use cases and prioritize per release.

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Thinh Nguyenphu (Unlicensed): bullet 5c: beside encourage efforts, ONAP should define it own core IM/DM models and touchpoints. This concept has been accepted among SDOs (ONF, TMF, and 3GPP).  My understanding is that each SDO has published their touchpoint specification. For ETSI NFV, https://docbox.etsi.org/ISG/NFV/Open/Publications_pdf/Specs-Reports/NFV-IFA%20024v2.1.1%20-%20GR%20-%20NFV%20IM%20External%20touchpoints.pdf. My recommendation: adding a new bullet 5d: defining the touchpoint and relations between ONAP core IM/DM with other organizations, such as ETSI NFV, TMF, ONF, 3GPP, etc.

Lingli Deng - Thanks Thinh for the suggestion. It makes sense for the long run, but I am afraid we might not have time for R2. Once we have defined a unified core IM/DM, it would be great to add it then.

6-  When defining new constructs in ONAP Data model

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Thinh Nguyenphu (Unlicensed): Agreed with Alex. I did not understand the purpose of bullet 5.

maopeng zhang - Could the author provide the rule coming from or reason why we regard it as a guideline?  I agree with Alex that basically we should  TOSCA guidelines if the data model is used by TOSCA. 

Lingli Deng - Suggest to keep it out, if no clarifications is agreed.

7-  When defining new Namespace, in order to avoid namespaces and types name types definitions collision, it is recommended that ONAP uses the rule and guidelines as described in the OASIS TOSCA Simple YAML Profile v1.2.

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Alex Vul - GENERAL OBSERVATION - we have three modeling domains in play for ONAP - development time, design time and run time. It would be good to establish some ground rules in terms of what IMs and what DM encodings are applicable at what "time". For example, are we implying that TOSCA data models are used across all three modeling domains? if not, then are there any principles and/or guidelines that establish what starting points and best practices are to be used within each domain?

Lingli Deng - My understanding, we will have IM for design time and run time. We will have UML representation for both times. We will have TOSCA representation for information exchanges across times or across modules whenever needed.