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00:35:00    Paweł Pawlak:    We start voting for unmaintained project deprecation as described by Andreas in : OOM New Delhi Release
00:35:03    Byung-Woo Jun:    #vote +1
00:35:25    Paweł Pawlak:    #vote +1
00:35:25    Andreas GEISSLER (DT):    #vote: +1
00:35:27    Keguang He:    #vote +1
00:35:31    N.K. Shankaranarayanan:    #vote +1
00:35:41    Paweł Pawlak:    #Vote end

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi Andrew.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Have young.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hey! Where are you?

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): You're

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): busy as always.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, I'm busy. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: yep,

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Fine! So far.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I'm busy so.

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Byung-Woo Jun: but we'll see how long.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So anyway, I in the slide deck I shared with the team.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I put the Deutsch telecom section. So anyway, whenever Mark and you have, you know, come up. And then, you know.

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Byung-Woo Jun: added more information there.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Well.

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Byung-Woo Jun: yep, so.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Sorry I was I was bit. Can you repeat? Can you repeat? Sorry.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So I in I attach to athletic draft.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So in the slide deck later on, if you look at that, and there's teleconception.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And system loading and then Mark and you and provide more detail work because I just for now I put

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Byung-Woo Jun: yesterday we did you talk about switch telecom plans to deploy on a call in

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Byung-Woo Jun: the production environment next year and based on use cases, some of the only component such as blah blah blah will be selected.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yeah, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And for that on streamlining and oem script announcement for individual own network orchestration, function, build and deployment are in progress. Okay, this more and you can.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and the mark and Edmore. So I'm gonna since Mark will be there, I'm gonna give the you know, mark to decide. Okay, that's my friend. Okay.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yeah, that's good. That's good. I will. I will try to catch him in the next days.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So either tomorrow or on Monday.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we have a one week. We have a one week to partnership. So.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi, Shanka! Hi, Ramesh! Let's wait for pabu. And

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Byung-Woo Jun: Sandra.

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Ramesh Murugan Iyer: Hi! Bean!

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hey! How are you?

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Boom, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I'm okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: Hello! Good morning. Everyone.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi, Pablo!

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Paweł Pawlak: Hello, Bjorn.

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Paweł Pawlak: how come? There's just 5 of us.

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Paweł Pawlak: 10.

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Byung-Woo Jun: We need them more to approve the.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And do you see.

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Paweł Pawlak: Exactly. We need more. Tsc, members.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, let's wait minute or 2. Maybe maybe

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Paweł Pawlak: they are coming.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: we need to send dry taste right?

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah. By the way, where is Sandra? Yeah, you're right.

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Paweł Pawlak: What happens.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Soft this week, and.

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Paweł Pawlak: Let me check my emails.

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Paweł Pawlak: Maybe maybe she dropped some information.

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Paweł Pawlak: Let's see if.

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Byung-Woo Jun: she put the

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Byung-Woo Jun: cheap with the the slack channel.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Is that? I have an appointment this morning. I don't think I'll be bad in time to join the Tsc. Meeting.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay. Okay, okay, okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: She's gonna join. So I mean, maybe we can go ahead.

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Byung-Woo Jun: How about can you share the screen or

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Byung-Woo Jun: your agenda?

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, yeah. J, give me a sec.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay? So I'm gonna share my screen.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: guys, please confirm, you can see it.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I can see.

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Paweł Pawlak: Alright. So

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Paweł Pawlak: just before

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Paweł Pawlak: we move on, I will mark myself as present.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: being, I think what our

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Paweł Pawlak: green color is

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Paweł Pawlak: sometimes more green, sometimes with more blue.

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Byung-Woo Jun: To fix it.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, it's okay. It's okay. Okay. Guys, let's let's move on.

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Paweł Pawlak: though.

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Paweł Pawlak: I propose we start with

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Paweł Pawlak: with some updates from tech update. If Mundasa is with us.

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Paweł Pawlak: Let me check. No, no, I don't see on the cell.

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Byung-Woo Jun: He he sent email. He's not gonna join today. So.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, okay, so let's move on. So

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Paweł Pawlak: sorry for that, maybe next week we, we could have this this update. So moving.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Maybe sorry. Maybe there's he report to second, maybe the as a second update. Maybe we can introduce. It's up to you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hubble.

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Paweł Pawlak: Hmm, yeah. Yeah. Well, this is

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Paweł Pawlak: mudosa has has many hats in on app so or in in Lfn, so I think this tech update would come from his head as a vice chair of tech right? So.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay. Okay. Hmm.

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Paweł Pawlak: But yeah, okay, hmm.

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Paweł Pawlak: we can, we can try to to have this update next time.

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Paweł Pawlak: Moving forward, moving forward.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, beyond, we have this.

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Paweł Pawlak: Would you like to refer to this point?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, we are going to add the you know, you know. Tsc, chair, Baro and vice Chance, me and Doman and Taguang. We work on this on your Tsc initiatives for new daily, and also roadmap to full elephant.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So we are going to. I'm going to present what we have done so far as a draft, so we can, you know, give you information.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then go through quickly, and then we put the slide deck in the draft so you can take a look at the offline. But I'm gonna give you a very quick overview today, and then take a look. And then we have a one more week to review.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So that means so by next week let us know your opinion. So all your company has additional input. And there's some reason China, mobile China telecom and voice telecom here the region.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then so if you, your company, has some other reason please share, but we don't have many tf.

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Paweł Pawlak: Hey, young? So I stopped sharing to give you the floor.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, let me do that. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: me share screen.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Let me know if you see my screen.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yes, we can see it.

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Paweł Pawlak: okay, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: As I mentioned, and myself and Kang Wong, we prepared for this for Ts initiatives and the new Delhi. And also so this is agenda. We're gonna present to elephant. Dtf, background challenges action points, human next plan, focus area and Cicd

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Byung-Woo Jun: also architecture focus lightweight on app and the Aiml intend and get and on maintain project plan, and then also collaboration between on app or and nephew collaboration plan and also on app and orn collaboration in progress. I I copy the chunk of report.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then China, mobile China telecom, and how we voice telecom. They share the visions. And then we're gonna do questions. So anyway, this is the background. So out of 9 is

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Byung-Woo Jun: we create the owner. And then for a telecom community. And we created many used cases and now own it is not platform any longer one of these collection of network automation functions.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and that allows operator vendors to pick and choose and desired function.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and these are on a streamlining, and then also on. It has a line of the many industry, standard and de facto, and then recently, aiml 3 Gpp. Tm. Forum, sc and 2 Gpp for Netflix license.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and also we do de facto ingress. I am a service man, she still

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Byung-Woo Jun: cognitive, and then also as the alignment. So we found. And what olive strength this is the what we see English Strength

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Byung-Woo Jun: weekly is a large. So it's complexity and learning curve. And then it's just some problem. The integration.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): Challenges the way they are.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Your voice, disappears.

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Byung-Woo Jun: You know. Can you hear me?

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yeah. Now again.

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Paweł Pawlak: Young now is better. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, sorry about that.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I don't know something wrong. So performance and scalability challenges. And we put the challenges here, competing standard and technologies and the some vendor lock, and we getting me moved to Af is gone, and then also some vendor specific configuration is gone.

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Byung-Woo Jun: But still not completely so. Implementation challenges and opportunity.

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Byung-Woo Jun: We are seeking emerging technologies, service, innovation, intent and secure Ci City

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Byung-Woo Jun: and part of the Oem Andreas team doing and also adding second, doing. And we try to make a Cq Cicd

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Byung-Woo Jun: and also network automation function capital. I'm gonna explain it a bit another community adoption. That's why. So this is the current issues, and not many new feature being implemented in New Jersey contribution having decreased significantly collaboration activity. Other companies are not strong yet, and several on a component being deprecated. So anyway, this is Action point we we come up and the setting on it. Authorization roadmap for on a, for future focus area and release

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Byung-Woo Jun: and evaluate alternate solution technology to ensure that only remains the best fit.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So we want to be relevant

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then collaborate to other community and standardization organization. So especially focus on the the Oran and the nephew.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And that's the kind of a 3 main action point we are.

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Byung-Woo Jun: am I with?

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then I'm gonna introduce about the what on it achieved so far. And then what's the next plan so and describe. Own it. Built as a platform, and through the owner streamlining, we achieved the individual component build and deployment. Thanks to all your effort and Ngos leading.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then what's the next?

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Byung-Woo Jun: So China telecom channel mobile they're thinking, what if we compose existing on it? Individual component, and then creating some kind of a lightweight on it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So for the some handling, some new feature or the the focus on the so do I enhance the feature.

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Byung-Woo Jun: This is one of the example. China, mobile China telecom intend to even close loop.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and they select this field to the the own app component, and then the creating complete their solution. So we are moving from platform to individual the catalog concept. And then we tried the building building with showcase, how to aggregate own app component for greater solutions. That's the one thing

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then focus radio manage the right size and focus function. This is what the owner streamlining. And then oem enabled these features.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So we can control size and focus function. And as I mentioned, we're gonna build some the lightweight on it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Component, it won't have function solutions. So then we can we need that. So and then also see collaboration with other community

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then become valuable. Reference implementation choice.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Understand the organization, such as ft. 3 Gpt and portal and operator and vendors.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then we continue a technology advanced and unique and value added feature to the telecom industry to make it relevant, otherwise only gonna disappear

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then continue enhancement on a component build and deployment security. That's what the Oem team is doing, and also other on a streamlining team

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Byung-Woo Jun: doing this and also secure cic progress.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So anyway, architecture, I think we share this one I mentioned. This is we building the the Icd pipeline creating owner in in the individual component, and then putting into artifacts

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then also using Jenkin and the philosophy and then using Deutsch telecom, using August city to deploy to our individual components. So we are seeing this as a first phase of the own funds.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then this is, I share this one before. At the Budapest. Anyway, this is once you achieve that, we can support generic capacity based vendor, only a operator they can use delivery pipeline. They can mix to their their component in their own environments.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And

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Byung-Woo Jun: this is kind of also I talked to China, mobile China telecom.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and probably this is a good use case for Oslo.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then connection to Oran and nephew. That's the one of the the also focus area, we think. But if you have any suggestion, other and objection, please let us know.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So here for the continuing streamlining and via the right way on a core network automation.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then for the we normalize and standardize the core component interface. We want the more standard based, and then, or the flexible based interfaces intended to expand the important and then decorative is important to communicate the nephew, and then possibly Oran, because Oran is leveraging nephew frame of architecture.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then we want to offer

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Byung-Woo Jun: own an individual component function for building or an smanko. I already have some plan

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Byung-Woo Jun: and some architectural join for that. So and that's what we trying to focus. So we're gonna discuss more detail, a policy based and secure announcement and logging design implementation. I think Tata communication Andrews, they mentioned about the logging implementation design you know. Probably possibly they can contribute to also Tata communications through the.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): No

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): minutes.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So that's the one I put and sec. Pipeline. We are adding the security secure. C. Id. Pipeline. We have some study case how to make a security Icd.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And signing verification as from some of them signing, and Som is already doing it. But we want to secure side seating.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So there's the one.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And I mentioned about the only one maintained project management. So we remove the Msp. And Cts. Temporal from the Montreal. But we are removing today. Andrea is gonna discuss further. But after that we're gonna add more. But for now

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Byung-Woo Jun: Cri university email, Ml, and then pass free Vfc and scatter which can be moved. Let's, you know, wait for the Andrews to report and our boarding tomorrow today.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And this is the collaboration I mentioned before. And then this is so what junk input I'm gonna briefly introduce to what owner the individual component can contribute to, or in a similar build.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then

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Byung-Woo Jun: this is China mobile. I'm not sure how the China mobile team is here.

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Byung-Woo Jun: They are doing something for New Delhi, and then they believe the owner is relevant for 5G. And coming. 6 g. Based on the AI based architecture.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And they explain about the Ui intent based network automation and those. So they envision how owner can talking to nephew so. And this is their first phase and owner. Ui going through the own app, the you know, the core the components, and talking to owner, the nephew and or or N, and based on standard. And then this is next division. It's possible.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And this is challenging. So telecom don't want to share this key function deployment intent based network. They're gonna continue

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Byung-Woo Jun: to to deploy on a release prior to London. I think them basically aft expiry. But we got removed that issue and OM. Already to enhance that, we will apply the new security architecture without Af. That's a good thing. We don't have that many challenges, actually, or in Sm, where they have a similar challenges problem. So we already inform Andrews, informed that we don't have, they don't have to use af any longer.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And this is today thinking about the candidate for a lightweight call on it and then additional they already mentioned about cps. Right? So anyway, they're going to do.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then we going to introduce our plan and our problem, our challenges to our elephant community. At the elephant. Dt, that's the current the plan. So I share the this slide that draft. And so if you have any company the input, please send to me and to send to us. And then the Pablo and Kevin, and don't want me. And then we gonna you know, enhance the the slide it before on the

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then any questions you can send me email. And then we're gonna discuss. And then next, Tsc, we're gonna have some feedback session.

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Byung-Woo Jun: If you have anything feel free to contact 4 of us. I'll stop sharing here.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, keep going. He's here. Ishanka is here.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I think that you can open it. Yeah, you can open that.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So yeah, we had the list which I created. Based on, let's say, on one hand, the deprecation of the maintenance of the message router where we have to select certain components which we cannot per default. Deploy anymore when the message router is removed

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Then, of course, the d map itself. There, when we deprecate or we remove the message router.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): we also deprecate the components which are using the message. Router sorry that which are using the data router, which would be the data file collector actually, and the Pm. Mapper, which is depending on a data file collector itself. So then it would make sense to completely disable the the the d map. Actually. So that would be the

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): and the Vfc it was correctly. Also agreed with Kejuan, so that as there are no let's say, further developments ongoing on that we also should disable it. And the Vnf. SDK. This is also just, let's say, agreed with

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: So, Andreas, if this is, if I understand, this is about not being part of the standard OM.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: But in some sense the code will be still available if somebody still using the message Router.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yes, you could. You could enable it, of course, from the standard deploy. So in the in the hound chart, so it will not disappear from the hound charts at the moment. Yeah, so you could just enable it. So they are still in there. But we we won't do not want to.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Let's say this, or let's say, yeah, deploy it from any.

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Paweł Pawlak: It's commented. If somebody is willing to use it, then must uncomment it right kind of.

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Paweł Pawlak: Just send that out. Yes.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): it is not maintained any longer. But if if they want to use it still, that that can be still done. Yeah, yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, okay, so that's fine. That's fine. We just wanna which you want to archive. Which one to completely move from it.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): To do at least the integration team. Or that's basically as well, me or Mike. We would need them to, let's say, change the current.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay. So I'm crafting some some message in chat. Sorry, guys, it's my first time I'm

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Paweł Pawlak: we start the voting process for the UN. Maintained project deprecation

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Paweł Pawlak: pay.

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Paweł Pawlak: as described by Andreas in in, in the In the link, right that you can see. So, please.

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Paweł Pawlak: and maybe I should do start votes. But okay, I I I know that we start voting. So I hope this is still in line

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Byung-Woo Jun: One more, one more.

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Paweł Pawlak: okay, I will now officially stop voting by vote end.

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Paweł Pawlak: So thank you very much. So I will put the comment here

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Paweł Pawlak: that Tsc. Agreed to.

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Paweł Pawlak: Approved, approved by Tsc. Or something like this, right.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yes. Bmw.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Next one. I you know, I just put that, but I don't think we are deported. But this one we have a tradition step so after Tsc, both, what are you gonna do? So we're gonna follow on this step, one through you know, 13 or 14. So anyway, I'm gonna book it, I'm gonna follow that. So since we approve that Tsc approving, I'm gonna which, you know, after Andreas and decide, we're gonna go through that transition to make it official. That's all.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, okay, thank you, Bill.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, guys, moving forward. I'm not sure if Jess joined.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, okay, so I'll put the work in progress. Mark, right? And we can check next next time

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, thank you. Kevin.

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Toine Siebelink: Hi, yeah, maybe I've missed something. So what we have these say, I'm actually not quite sure where you're on the screen.

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Paweł Pawlak: Well, we do on our side. We do every month kind of review of the of the Progress. Right? So

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Toine Siebelink: That's fine.

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Toine Siebelink: But are you communicating? Sorry about what I'm wondering about? What we yeah, previously, I think, what's the name she used to create tickets for.

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Paweł Pawlak: Tickets were created for each project. Amy, Amy created tickets.

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Toine Siebelink: Oh, okay, yes. I was wondering about. I'm not aware, maybe just simple. No tickets for for cps, so I'll I'll double check it again. But

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Paweł Pawlak: Every project, but I can double check and and send you some more details. Offline if you want.

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Toine Siebelink: Yeah, yeah, I'm just not aware of a ticket for cps. But maybe if we miss it somehow, I'll I'll double check it again. Anyway. Thanks, Pablo.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, okay, thank you for for raising this point.

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Paweł Pawlak: I don't know, if there is progress for Mg portal,

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Paweł Pawlak: But I'm not sure if it happened.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I'm not also not sure because we have this week complete the complete

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): of a planning week.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, okay.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So, therefore maybe this week it will not or wouldn't.

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Paweł Pawlak: We will check on Monday in this.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, nice thing.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you at your fiance.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, so this is already covered. Hmm.

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Paweł Pawlak: we have this one more item for the Pts update. So documentation work. There were 2 items remaining. Right address.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yes, there were 2 2 items of May remaining also here. We have to check. So whether whokash will will provide or help us for that, at least for the, for the my for the multi cloud component.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): The other one, maybe, is not this relevant? This was from of I don't think that we will manage or will use that at all, so let's see so. But to be the the multi cloud one. I I we will check with with

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): with Wukash, but he's also on that on that planning. That's the the.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah, okay, next week. Next week. I I I hear you, okay, no problem.

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Paweł Pawlak: And then subcommittee update view.

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Byung-Woo Jun: It's already presented there. This, my slide. The so any comment please contact outcome. And then we're gonna modify. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: yes, thank.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you

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Paweł Pawlak: or M. Update, address.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Well, we have so far most of these most of the patches are are in. We have one issue.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yeah, he will. He's he has updated the Sso. Accordingly. But still has issues, and he thinks that. And he found some issues in the Sdnc. Code which he doesn't know whether there was someone working? Or is someone working on that or not

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): to to make this or to get this ready? Otherwise we still we will still have then issues when the Sdnc update is done for new daily.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): and the S always.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): Yeah. Ready.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): For for that. Yeah.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): Yeah, I see his comments now. I have missed them before. I'll I'll take a look at them.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): I do know there are updates we have to make internally, some, some of them complete changes, and some of them might be code changes.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): Yeah, right?

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): That would be great.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): Yes. Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: So done, please please check and and come back to to us.

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Paweł Pawlak: what's more specifically to to Andreas and the team.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I'm just.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you

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Paweł Pawlak: alright. Just a reminder we have. We have upcoming events right in in the end of April beginning of May.

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Paweł Pawlak: Being. Would you like to give an update for the for the agenda for Friday?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Sure. Can you? Can you hear me.

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Paweł Pawlak: We hear you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah. Okay. So if you click the last link.

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Paweł Pawlak: Last thing. Of course.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, their one, yeah.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Go to delegate to May. Keep going. May second, second and third, yeah. Yeah. Second.

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Byung-Woo Jun: see if you scroll down.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): Close.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, there you go.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And so

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Byung-Woo Jun: dtf, programming committee this Monday have decided we're going to schedule this way. So they said.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Thursday, may second is all the nephew Day, dedicated nephew in a day. So we're going to all attend the nephew today, so they are.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Have a several agenda. If you scroll down. You can see agenda. So they have up to whole day.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and they gonna describe to see sick ones

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Byung-Woo Jun: 2, 3, 4. Keep. If you keep scroll down there. 4,

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Byung-Woo Jun: so they're gonna do it. And then Friday, if you scroll back up Friday, since many people are leaving afternoon. So we squeeze the

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Byung-Woo Jun: the schedule. So anyway, for own app, I'm gonna start with the New Daily Release status. I'm preparing another slide and I can share next Tsc, briefly.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and followed by the Onts initiative for all the roadmap and strategy that I just did it, and then oem enhancement oops you going too fast. Om enhancement Andreas Geisel and all his colleague, and talk about the oem enhancement.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Then the

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Byung-Woo Jun: the quality, assurance, and security in software development. Modessa from second will present that.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and then, followed by Maggie from Nsa. Will provide operation security and open source. 5G mobile network. They're going to do.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then, Sess, you're going to present a cross community collaboration case study.

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Byung-Woo Jun: and the last one is cps, demo twine

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Byung-Woo Jun: and twine. Sorry for the late one, but this is still before 2 o'clock. So so anyway.

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Toine Siebelink: No, yeah. I was just gonna ask you, can you? Because you're showing I'm not sure what time zone you're currently showing so it's ending at 2 2 pm. In the afternoon. Right? So.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Pm. Will end it.

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Toine Siebelink: It's gonna be.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you.

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Toine Siebelink: Yeah, no particular like being the last one. But okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I know, but you know people leaving like Maggie leaving Friday, many people leaving. So we tried to. Sorry about that. But

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Byung-Woo Jun: that's the only the.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): So.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So that's the schedule, and don't confuse by this timeline, because

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Byung-Woo Jun: Pablo is in Europe now. So.

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Toine Siebelink: What's Pavel? Sorry it's pavil screen.

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Paweł Pawlak: So it is. It's it's.

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Toine Siebelink: See what.

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Paweł Pawlak: So we're so time, time zone, so good.

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Toine Siebelink: 5. Okay? Yeah, that's one.

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Paweł Pawlak: To you to you. One. Right? You are in Ireland. So yeah, and plus one.

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Byung-Woo Jun: This one, I think, though, everything will be finished before 2 o'clock. So I mean, there's some session closing session, brief one. But you know, we target everything done by 2

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Byung-Woo Jun: Pm. And local. You know the California time. So that's the.

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Paweł Pawlak: Quarter past 1 one Pm. Should finish here or not. Maybe no.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Something.

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Paweł Pawlak: 9 h. You need to. The, you know

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Paweł Pawlak: I'm wasted.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Times, like.

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Paweł Pawlak: An hour is plus. So it should be

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Paweł Pawlak: before 2. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, before 2, yeah, so.

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Paweł Pawlak: Maybe quarter to 2. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, yeah, something like that. So anyway, people can leave Friday. That's that's why. So we have a very busy schedule. But you know.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so he's gonna work. And then so Andreas, you, you know, talk to Mark or somebody else who can present in person. And then, or do I can connect the link. But you are not gonna be here anyway. So yeah, right? So okay, that's the things. I'm not sure tag one. And then don't. One can remotely join that time. In that case I give you a chance to present to your sections. Okay, if if you, if you want.

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Dan Timoney (AT&T): Okay.

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Keguang He: Have a note to.

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Keguang He: I'm not approved here for

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Keguang He: the partition.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, then I'll cover no problem. I cover China, Mobile and China

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Byung-Woo Jun: telecom section. And then, okay, mark will cover the Deutsch telecom if he comes. And then, Howie, I'm going to talk to Don, we?

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Byung-Woo Jun: And if he wants to doing it. But anyway, so okay, so I send the email to them. And then if you have any comment, they can come back to me. So okay, this is schedule the we you know.

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Byung-Woo Jun: mate.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you for sharing, and thank you for being our representative beyond here

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Paweł Pawlak: in the in this, in the committee.

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Paweł Pawlak: Alright, I think we ran out of the topics unless some of you would like to add some. Add some additional topic for today or for the next week.

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Paweł Pawlak: I'm fine. Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: hearing none. Thank you very much, guys, for for attending today. Thank you for

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Paweł Pawlak: voting

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Paweł Pawlak: and hear you next week.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Thank you.

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Paweł Pawlak: You, everybody! Bye.

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Keguang He: Bang!

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Paweł Pawlak: Bye.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: And cube.