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07:03:09 Okay, we should be the transcript, although I don't see where it is showing up. there.
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07:04:19 And Magnus. I see you came in. Thank you. Okay, gender.
07:04:35 Today. usual release stuff. Challenge Talk again about what we want to do with Spc.
07:04:49 Representation. talk about the detail Had a couple of days of excellent conversation.
07:05:03 There. i'm sorry I skipped over the a steve out.
07:05:06 I will cover that And then upcoming events, normal, administrative.
07:05:14 Anyone have anything else that needs to be added. Okay, Folks and we'll turn it over to David Mcbride.
07:05:31 Thanks, Kenny. Okay, I sent the weekly release status report out yesterday.
07:05:50 It's linked in the agenda so feel free to review that if you haven't had chance, there are a few things that I wanted to highlight, we do have jakarta m 4 coming up one week from
07:06:04 today and recall that we had a conditional approval of M.
07:06:12 3 last week, which included a number of jeer issues that we need to complete by M.
07:06:29 4 next week. Whoops! Did I put the wrong lake in there?
07:06:35 I guess. yeah, I did, all right. Guys still have it up here someplace.
07:06:59 Nope, I do not doesn't appear too anyway.
07:07:05 Sorry about that. so we do still have some issues.
07:07:11 Actually I guess we could look at that from the actually let's just go to the report.
07:07:18 Sorry i'm babbling here. let's look at the milestone status none of my links seem to be working this morning.
07:07:34 Okay, I don't want to take up a bunch of time So just be aware that we do still have a number of issues remaining from the the conditional approval of M.
07:07:48 3. that are also due next week with them 4, in addition to our usual Emperor issues.
07:08:00 I did want to call something out that this came up on the the Ptl meeting this week.
07:08:11 Talking about the migration to the new unh lab.
07:08:18 So the the we do have a hard deadline on continuation of the intel lab, which, from what I understand, is April first, and we have not made much progress in terms of migration.
07:08:34 So right now. this looks to me to be a significant risk to the Jakarta schedule going forward.
07:08:45 So this will be a topic on the ptail meeting on Monday.
07:08:52 I mentioned the the list of your issues that were accepted last week i'm referring to this list here there was one item that we missed, which is a Ai 3, 4, 4, 8.
07:09:10 And so I wanted to get a approval from the Tsc.
07:09:14 To add that to this, this list that was in the vote from last week.
07:09:23 Can we? Can we just do a pound degree for that?
07:09:25 Or do we need a vote? or what do you think? I think a pound of grease sufficient?
07:09:31 Okay, Any questions about this. This is related to resolving high and highest priority.
07:09:44 Cheer issues specifically Ai and 3, 4, 5, 5.
07:09:48 This is ongoing swan. Anyone have any questions or concerns about that?
07:09:59 All right. Hey, David? Yeah, and this is for and i'm i'm going for for liam?
07:10:08 Yeah. just wanted to give you some quickest status on the Unh tr lab.
07:10:12 I have a here at the school where I was going to.
07:10:15 Size alive on jazz check it out i'm just about to to make sure.
07:10:21 Okay. so. that's a that's friday I think I completed that task.
07:10:28 I sent him to to a group of people that they were involved in the in so many email conversation.
07:10:35 So from my end, I think so. I went through the exercise.
07:10:42 I cannot. I had a small tenant given to me by by a different and Lincoln.
07:10:52 So the testing in that area, I mean, I went through openstack commands in our tuition the cloud and network so good groups and all that stuff floating ips.
07:11:01 And I look okay, and I install like like a very small installation of a phone up.
07:11:08 Yes, to make sure that things were coming up. Okay, and there was a
07:11:14 I could be able to to create and larger installations at some point in time.
07:11:19 So why do I have more resources in the tenant?
07:11:23 All that doesn't seem okay. to me so so I just I just wanted to teach you so many studies on that you have to make sure that you are aware of okay?
07:11:32 I'm not sure quick will be the next but yeah from Miami.
07:11:38 I think we we had. Okay, Okay, that's good to know thanks for that feedback.
07:11:47 Yeah, I I think that this will be a big topic of conversation on Monday in the Ptl meeting, because we need to get folks to move forward.
07:12:00 If we're going to maintain our schedule for Jakarta.
07:12:07 So so that that's good to know so was Stephen your primary resource and getting things set up right.
07:12:16 But yeah, I refer to a few issues with lucky enough authorization.
07:12:24 So yeah, I was in touch with the Stefan when he was saw the most problems with me.
07:12:31 Okay, all right terrific. Thank you for that. So are we just shifting the conversation now to the lab , well, it was , Are we going to come back and visit that well, it was in the agenda for the for release status just that that we have a significant
07:12:58 risk due to the lack of progress in migration. Does that make sense?
07:13:09 Can he? Yeah. So I guess we just had it 2 places in the agenda.
07:13:14 Okay, yeah, wasn't aware of that, did you want to record the pound degree on Ai.
07:13:25 3, 4, 4, 8. Well, I was, you know I was starting to type that in.
07:13:32 And then, yeah, just a second horror. That was the policy project.
07:13:45 Right, please, Jorge. All right. Yeah. Yeah, it was on mute.
07:13:54 So So yeah, the exercise was to exercise. The The last couple of it is is another stack to get like a like. all these virtual networks and all that you to pay all kids like a virtual machines, where you go on
07:14:05 the anat installation, my exercise It was dating, I mean, using the openstack infrastructure to create, to create the network, and to have access from from and side.
07:14:17 And I install like a small policy. I think I think I have 3 components policy, 40 c.
07:14:24 Af and the maps just to just to make sure that I mean, I was able to bring it up, and it was because of I think I I didn't think have enough memory allocated to the tenant okay, and you're gonna be on the
07:14:41 meeting on Monday correcting. I wasn't planning to go.
07:14:48 But I can go like, and I can again yeah since you have the moat. We're going to be talking about this, and you have the most experience working with the new lab.
07:14:57 It would be helpful if he could be on the call.
07:15:02 All right. Thank you. Okay. The last thing I wanted to mention was that did put together a schedule proposal for the cone release.
07:15:15 So you can start looking at that. if you're interested and and I imagine that we will be scheduling that for a boat in the Tsc.
07:15:27 And the next week or 2, and this we use this as the basis for discussions with the open daylight team on Tuesday, which you can read about in the status report.
07:15:45 If you're interested Alright, that's it for me Kenny, unless there are any questions okayoke moving on, then anything for release engineering release, engineering, you have anything for the community, nothing from my side, Kidding Kevin, do you have anything from my side, as
07:16:35 Well, okay. So then, we'll shift to talking about the unh lab and just continue that conversation.
07:16:51 Email was sent out to a number of folks. I I sent the email out to a number of folks that both have existing invite set up in the Intel lab and have also contributed code over the past 6 months So did that with the
07:17:22 assumption that those are the folks that are most likely to be impacted by the lab shutdown.
07:17:30 I so that they're aware work is being done to make sure that all of their VPN accounts have been set up.
07:17:44 We've got a status meeting this afternoon and then after that Unh and Stephen Gooch have a working session scheduled to discuss getting and getting the openstack installation automated so that can
07:18:06 be moved forward so that's the current status as David said, the lab will shut down ready or not on April first.
07:18:22 That is, and that is a geological feature in the landscape that is not moving.
07:18:32 They've been trying to get us out of this lab for over a year.
07:18:35 Obviously we had issues with the delivery of the hardware.
07:18:43 Taking quite a while due to supply chain issues and all of that.
07:18:47 But this is this is really happening. this time there's that hey?
07:18:58 Kenny, you mentioned you sent out some email with the active user for intel lab Do you have a reference for it? I don't think I saw it.
07:19:08 I want to make sure I for the details what you ever indicated.
07:19:16 So what I what what I did was, I received the list from Steven Gooch on everyone that had a VPN account.
07:19:30 I compared that against I compared that against the insights leaderboard for the past 6 months.
07:19:42 Related to code contribution, and then based upon that, I manually sent out email to everybody.
07:19:50 So it is possible that I that I missed somebody I Didn't.
07:19:59 Yeah, I mean, if you can turn to the pktl list or please list it, just suffer. I that'll help.
07:20:03 I mean Well, the the goal here was to try and get the folks that were most likely broader.
07:20:12 Communication is going to take place. but we, before we threw the the the floodgates open to everyone.
07:20:18 We wanted to make sure that the folks that were most likely to be impacted were we there.
07:20:25 So I can go back to the list and see if for some reason I Miss Jvj.
07:20:31 I'm happy to do that . okay yeah as I said they're meeting to talk about the getting the openstack automation in place.
07:20:40 One once that is done, then the the general call can probably go out right.
07:20:50 I mean. I knew the units lab migration was being discused, and it's been been worked at least as a by a pilot project at this point. but I didn't realize the April first date was a cutoff for
07:21:01 the wind to a lap to be shut down so that's something new.
07:21:04 So yeah, what we need to Yeah, get those current tenants?
07:21:11 Instance, migrated so of them yeah Yes, so that's why I didn't get email myself.
07:21:29 I mean, even though I yeah I wouldn't I yeah I wouldn't have send it to you.
07:21:33 Yeah. Okay, because you you were already engaged. Yeah. no, I.
07:21:42 Those were all generated and sent individually by hand to about 35 people.
07:21:51 Yeah, I think, Okay, Moving on to the Asd vote, the vote went out to the Tsc.
07:22:06 Via opa vote. It was anonymous.
07:22:12 There were 14 votes that went out the voting.
07:22:23 This time I did not rely on opa vote. I sent individual emails to all 14 Tsc.
07:22:30 Members, each one with a separate code to access the site to do their vote.
07:22:39 11 votes were cast. 3 hosts were not
07:22:46 One of the individuals that did not vote. let me know why so onto the results.
07:23:03 So the results are a Yes, I guess I should go back here.
07:23:08 Hang on There is the specific vote. a Yes, vote means that own app can have an alternative model to Etsy's approach for cloud native architecture.
07:23:32 Own app will proceed without waiting for Etsy to fully define their cloud native model, and that the current asd Information model version, one will be moved to the clean State.
07:23:44 That was the Yes vote, and, as you can see, the vote has passed. The requirement as defined in the charter, is an only electronic vote.
07:24:03 The majority of all Tsc. members, not just those voting, but all Tsc.
07:24:08 Members most vote in favor of, and with 14 people the cut off point there would be 8, and we have 9 votes in favor of.
07:24:23 So the asd model is hereby approved and we can have an alternative to Etsy's approach going forward.
07:24:41 So that's the decision. So thank thank you kenny for o organizing the vote.
07:25:00 Glad that we are able to date. You understand the direction.
07:25:06 So I believe that now we need to proceed. The Tsc.
07:25:14 Community wrote it, which is it's a go for the cinfa supposed to pursue with the approach that they have been sharing as an Isd.
07:25:27 At the same time, you know that there are still wanted, that we continue to share or reserve to the Ec.
07:25:35 Community, because I believe that they don't have any solution today.
07:25:38 They might be getting spy, and we still want to have an engagement from the Modeling Security team to help us to to move in this direction.
07:25:49 200 from where we are, so think we conclude it has been a long discussion, but the Tc.
07:25:58 Of now share, do direction, and I count on all of you to implement the result of the vote.
07:26:15 Thank you for to all the Tc. members with participate to the vote.
07:26:21 Okay, so I will publish this. Actually, I think I am just going to grab it as a screenshot and drop it in shots while we are doing this here live.
07:26:49 So bear with me. Okay, both of those are in. Okay. So moving on the Spc.
07:27:48 Seems like we keep having these conflicts with the Spc. Spc. was canceled this month due to the dtf
07:28:00 So I guess, just throwing it out there. Do we have any volunteers to be the Spc.
07:28:07 Rep and If not, There's phone App his own app interested in retaining their seat on the Spc.
07:28:22 Oh, so I still want to extend my thanks to Anna, because I had a commitment to Hala to find, but not representative.
07:28:35 And and then she agreed to stay on the Spc.
07:28:42 I thinking on app until we find somebody. but I had this commitment to conclude as soon as possible.
07:28:51 I know there have been some concern about what was the whole of the Spc.
07:28:58 And I was open to make. invite your with leading the the Spc.
07:29:05 The strategic planning committee, and it did not happen because we have been busy.
07:29:11 We ordered asd what not only we have it's not only you keep us busy there have been no reply, but we need to to question ourselves what what this group can bring to us.
07:29:33 My understanding is that this group help if we need additional funding, because we can justify
07:29:43 That ownap is still strategic and that's that's the case when we discuss about the the budget for the Asia.
07:29:52 It's not really a major assignment I think it's 2 h the time of somebody per month is not per week.
07:30:03 It's per month. originally it was supposed to have a Tsc.
07:30:11 Members. But I think if somebody else from the own community want to have help us on on this positioning, it might be possible as well of what can.
07:30:26 And so I can do i'm looking at the kpi because I didn't look at them. I think it's it had to be reduced.
07:30:35 This. This was the target that they have. one of the topics.
07:30:41 If you look at the the deck was really about 1,000 infrastructure.
07:30:46 This is really where own app has some meat, and this is this is from December.
07:30:55 Yes, yes, and if you look at the sucks like you have to keep ya if you so 200, if we need to continue to be supported.
07:31:01 If we have. If we have any need for an infrastructure perspective, we need to be part of this Spc.
07:31:10 There are also other reason to be part of the Sbc.
07:31:12 It is also 250. have an opportunity to get off community support, and we are lucky because Kenny announced last week that we have now on the me.
07:31:28 I have a presentative, and again it was reported by the Sbc.
07:31:31 2. Another good reason, as you can see, to be part of it.
07:31:37 Because, as Pc. was bringing that to the board as well, so I just give you some concrete example about the benefit to be part of it.
07:31:50 What we can lose if we decide to not be past of it I don't know there is any immediate feedback from anybody.
07:32:09 . so we we understand that the tst already considered that we didn't need a vice chair, although I would have helped. I would have loved to have additional support so 100 not all the critical mission fill on me but I think here it's
07:32:26 it's only 2 h per month. I wish that somebody could find the 2 h require.
07:32:37 To continue to get the support that we need sidance so is planning to have your name common talk to us?
07:33:03 Or are we skipping that what's the plan yeah I'll i'll i'll try and get him here. He and I have been doing a lot of tag lately maybe do do other things so so let me try and get him here for next
07:33:24 week's call so Halla can you give us another 2 weeks or do I?
07:33:29 I don't know if there is any meeting can you can you stay or have some that Yeah, there's There's nothing.
07:33:35 There's nothing scheduled until next month. Okay, so believe that we can survive a little bit.
07:33:41 But let's have a look opportunity to meet join because maybe I'm.
07:33:46 Not representing him, and what he wants to do this year with Spc. Group.
07:33:53 So more. If you could give an advert to your yeah i'll yeah, a team of you could do that.
07:34:01 I? I Okay, thank you. all, all, , Yeah. Please go ahead.
07:34:05 But I just gave him a pre-warning that this is coming reach out independently.
07:34:10 Also the the all the chair elections for the Sbc.
07:34:18 Are kicking off next week. our other hmm all of all of the the the governing board officers or elections, i'm kicking off next week.
07:34:32 So, in addition to that, there's the the spc so I could have new leadership in there soon.
07:34:41 I don't know but yeah thank you tima for for reaching out, and i'll i'll ping him as well.
07:34:54 , And if you would you mind to do an official request, or do you want me to do an official question?
07:35:01 Yeah, that yeah, if you're in there typing already, That's fine, I think that we have you.
07:35:36 Yep: Okay, thank you. i'll own app liaison updates.
07:35:46 Got a mail from thin saying that there is something coming from something coming from Etsy.
07:36:04 Shortly. so be having my eyes out for that in terms of statement of direction or something.
07:36:16 I'm sorry i'm just going by a brief look at an email message that I saw and I don't have the details.
07:36:23 So all I know is is something's coming he asked where it should be officially sent.
07:36:31 Anything on task force updates. No sorry, Kenny.
07:36:38 I have on deliberation updates just a a sort of early warning.
07:36:43 I I got a request from Shankar, John Kenyan, Martin Scorubsky, on trying to sort out some of these sort of copyright issues with threegpp specifications.
07:36:58 So I I did make contact with the threegpp and and have a had a brief sort of male exchange, and they said that they were handling that also based on a request from all around, so that they have that on their
07:37:18 agenda, so their their advice to me was to for own-up, to create an liaison statement and sent to them so I will do so.
07:37:28 I will I'm. sort of creating that place on statement and I will present that in Tc.
07:37:36 Hopefully next week and get that approved, and then send it to to Threegpp.
07:37:44 It. it has to do with the if we dare to use sort of the 3 gpp terminology, and and such things without being sort of accused of breaking some some copyright and there.
07:37:57 There are some good arguments, of course, for for not forking the terminology, so that you you you have to have sort of own up names for something that's already been defined by by Threegpp, but, as I said I will
07:38:15 come back to that. Thanks. So so thank you, Magnus. So this is another another one of those.
07:38:24 Hi! we have a standard, but you can't use the standard Yeah, Magnus Tank.
07:38:30 This is Shankar. Thanks, thanks for doing that. And and Kenny Magnus mentioned 3 names.
07:38:37 Martin, also John Kaney, Yep, and myself. You were.
07:38:40 It is into sort of tracking this issue and let's see what comes out of it. and this and magnets you write this.
07:38:54 This has also come up in now, and all right you see meetings. but there it also got coupled with.
07:39:00 There's a whole effort on there is something called or an secl license, and we don't quite have that in on app.
07:39:09 So we were hoping some simple approach might work yeah therefore, i'll create to indicate that in the in the laser statement that that we don't want to boil the ocean, we really really want just to solve some concrete sort
07:39:24 of very sort of yeah practical issue that we have.
07:39:37 Can you just type Jk think it'll show up or just John Kay.
07:39:49 Hell is help. I forget what I do to yeah i'm having some weird editing.
07:39:54 Yeah, there we go, and my mind's also I don't know what happens here to do at Nk, and it might show up. Nope.
07:40:06 Oh, there we go. the last one the last one yeah I haven't, some normally and just.
07:40:18 I was just trying to do the the the link trick.
07:40:23 But for some reason it was like zapping the whole line i'm not sure what was going on there.
07:40:34 Okay, And so there's that and then there is the it can.
07:40:55 You have just the the information that you are doing within Yep from the email.
07:41:01 Thank you. Also there is the there's going to be another joint session.
07:41:14 I think at the and correct me if i'm wrong it's. it's it's going to be at the next Cnf meeting.
07:41:25 Is that? is that correct? How can it be one or earlier?
07:41:35 This 1 h before the the next meeting. the the team at testimony on the 20.
07:41:44 It's more exciting twentieth 22 s 22 next Thursday.
07:41:59 Now. Oh, i'm looking at the wrong month looking at entirely the wrong month.
07:42:08 Sorry. There we go. So thank you i'm just running slow today.
07:42:25 Okay, anything else with regards to that , just I just had the time.
07:42:38 Right? Yeah, that's what i'm reading from the the website yeah, okay, and somebody else.
07:42:55 So it means that we? So it means that we will conserve the Cnf task force, because it might be overlapping or sinister as falls next week or is just before the cnn's task force.
07:43:16 Yeah. related question: Are we, Are we anchoring the Cnf task?
07:43:21 First meeting to Utc or shifting it with daylight saving time.
07:43:28 School. Yeah, that's also a good thing that we should discuss with the Cnf task force, because I don't know if people wants to.
07:43:39 We grow back to another time zone or not so that's something we could ask to do, cnf task force.
07:43:45 But here it's a meeting already. 7 I Guess visit c so we cannot really change anything.
07:43:51 I believe, for for that meeting yes, more in general, and on a somewhat related note to that for folks outside of the United States.
07:44:25 It Currently, there is a bill working its way through. Kong set set the Us.
07:44:35 So we do not shift our clocks twice a year.
07:44:40 And I will be celebrating popping bottles of champagne if that happens.
07:44:49 Okay, So So just to be back honey I think that's a fifth question.
07:44:57 So that's why I track it? here. to not forget we should discuss, because previously we were changing the day, and the time when we have a clock change.
07:45:09 So I think it's a fair question to ask to the task force, and well,
07:45:19 I need to send a note. So I take a look. Yeah, if you want to. I can do that right after this meeting, or right now, consent Okay, enough to ask first, please.
07:45:34 Thank you, ani and I don't know honey, if we maintain the one of the next week or not, since there is a review.
07:46:02 Tap the A meeting organized with it. See? modeling subcommittee and the Cnf task force.
07:46:10 Yeah, I think my gut really maybe it's best to skip that one so we can avoid the conflict.
07:46:17 And also let people focus on the status. So we have 2 a little bit less than 2 weeks to figure out.
07:46:56 Thank you, Randy. it's just just a quick update I forget to add it. just a quick update from the enterprise task force.
07:47:08 We we continue to work on the preparation of a poc.
07:47:16 B. you see, between own app and service so just as a reminder. high minor suburbs in he's a a concept that has been blocked by the University in California. 2 to define what it is a network slides, what
07:47:37 it is a secure network slide. Sorry. So if you are interested, I really would like in to invite you to look at the recording from yesterday, and then, Shankar, I want to give you a notes, because when speak about network, slicing 2 since
07:47:52 you are of Junkian with your team. We Martian and Wenco was presenting the first requirement at epic level, and I have inviting him to contact you.
07:48:11 With your team to ensure that we have integrated correctly the requirement at the right place in the network slicing call flow.
07:48:23 Okay, So so maybe well, there'll be some offline email, I guess from Marshall .
07:48:36 Yes, I don't contact you soon. so that you can sync up and thanksgiving.
07:49:34 The comment did not find the link for Shankar, I mean, is it yet?
07:49:43 He was walking again. She did not find your I don't know Why, some names don't show up.
07:49:51 You can. i'll drop it into the chat yeah Yeah, and now there are 2, 3 end.
07:49:59 Can you area separately? We figure out there is. there are some names.
07:50:03 This. we know some of the in the different meetings. they have issues.
07:50:08 I? Yeah, I or they have multiple. I have not been able to figure that out over over over the course of 5 years.
07:50:19 I have not been able to figure that out in confluence I mean, sometimes it can't find my name.
07:50:29 The one thing that I do know is that if somebody hasn't logged into the wiki in a while.
07:50:34 It won't show up but that's not the issue that we run into Sometimes it's just these are people that are extremely active and just can't for some reason find their names and don't know why yeah never been able to figure that
07:50:58 out and to be honest. it's not something that I've I've worked a little bit with roland John.
07:51:13 But we Haven't spent a lot of time on it because it's It's more in the annoyance class.
07:51:21 Yeah, the issue. Then we we have bigger problems to deal with But Yeah, it's It's it's super annoying.
07:51:38 Maybe someday we'll get an update with confluence that fixes it.
07:51:42 But I don't know why we I think we if there isn't any question.
07:51:50 People interested by this Poc. we define the requirement. The requirement, even if it is a Poc, will be presented to the requirements of committee.
07:52:03 But 40 member, I think what it is important is to team up with the natural sizing.
07:52:08 Use case team to validate the flow, and of course the Ptn.
07:52:12 Just to validate if it is the Ptn.
07:52:17 The project team who are engaged in this through as well.
07:52:20 So. there is not yet an official Kiko for the development. So if you're interested, feel free to contact the Marcia, 250 this work is done in the context of the Fiveg Cpu point and also
07:52:35 with the University of California as well. Anything else you want to add.
07:52:41 Question. No. just to say that this is done in this the collaboration with Eric Clan from the Universities of California, South California, and that it is team that will be actually doing the ribbon walk.
07:53:03 We call Yeah. and It's also a piece of the big blue Queen adventure that we are trying to do in the context of Ops Fiveg. Ops.
07:53:17 5 G. been also represented under the Fiji Ukraine as a potential customer. All right.
07:53:24 If there is any question, I think it's also important to give you some update the Nfn. Ddf: So, as you know, this week, there was an event to several hours per day.
07:53:38 We are dedicated the first day to focus on the Cnf.
07:53:43 Amongst the different open source community that belongs to the Linux Foundation networking.
07:53:49 The second day was dedicated on the alignment that I was trying to present last week, and we also to some documentation, some documentation discussion as well.
07:54:06 So I was thinking of you to us maybe there's something that you could also learn from this event.
07:54:12 Oh, so that these are the high level points, I think I would Give the floor to honey, but we probably want to leave die a little bit more. What's happened on the owner and coalignment?
07:54:23 Ronnie, I give you the flow. yes, in terms of the ownup and mcoalignment.
07:54:31 I think we realize that the most important task right now is identify the requirements because we have a lot of good technical solutions.
07:54:43 We just need to match them with the right problems. And there might be slightly different solutions to slightly different problems.
07:54:52 3. So there are right now there's going to be a group of people sort of a word group working on this type of frequency for orchestrating cnfs, which will start from my requirements and will hopefully get to
07:55:12 recommendation of when to use each architect combination of own appemco, and maybe other kind of fed open source projects.
07:55:29 Just a out of from the top of my head that's kind of the main takeout take away from from there.
07:55:40 If others who attended one to end, please go ahead, is the other of things who cost.
07:55:53 My mind was the discussion up already on boarding. This is an area which is a part one.
07:56:01 The on boarding. This is an area where people also believe there are some investing as investments, some agreement to do, especially when we move to the pro native 290.
07:56:11 2. So somehow I was glad that today we we reach a conclusion on our of the Asd model, because the Asd modern is also considered by the Orange Sea as a potential move for warfare for crew.
07:56:31 Native right? So but on boarding my might be the on boarding concern that we had during this discussion might be addressed or not by the work that, as the team is doing as well I see the world on boarding so that's why i'm
07:56:46 thinking of that, the slide I available on the Lfn.
07:56:52 Workshop. They have been additional content since I was presenting last week. so we can go through quickly now, because we have sometimes, or we can move to the next topic.
07:57:04 But for the people who are really interested. you need to consider that the alignment is about somehow having a M.
07:57:13 Call at the edge level to provide some capabilities at the edge level to support the Kubernetes for clothing.
07:57:22 Then on top of it. you have owner who will act as a end-to-end centralized orchestrator, and also what we discussed in the end of Picasso is today.
07:57:33 It was giving me the feeling that it's not only an end to end.
07:57:36 But as part of the end to end the If there is a disconnection between one edge and another, right
07:57:45 Only my act as a notator synchronizer at 2 unsure that the information is communicated to all the the other edge right during a failure.
07:57:57 As an example, so that's the use case that we might want to explore.
07:58:01 Furthermore, as well, and I know, Shaker, you were part of the workshop.
07:58:06 Maybe you want to add anything and and chemo, Thank you pretty much.
07:58:17 Covered everything of creation. This alignment is is critical as well.
07:58:32 So one of the the the recordings for i've updated all of the I'm.
07:58:40 Sorry i've uploaded all the recordings from the Monday session.
07:58:43 I have not yet uploaded the recordings for the Tuesday session.
07:58:46 I'll be doing that to this afternoon. Okay, yeah since you're sharing that page can, if you can scroll down to the minutes and action items.
07:58:57 Maybe folks have a quickly. i'm sorry I Think the lack of sleep this week is is being clearly demonstrated by me on this call.
07:59:10 Yes, kitos to all people who are located in pst time zone, because the I was but getting told me, too, is like this.
07:59:19 I didn't realize, but the meeting the the ddf even started at 5 A. M.
07:59:25 So credentials for the one who will able to join because it's It's quite early, and kudos to the people who stay late as well. Right?
07:59:35 So 100. but but I think they have been some interesting discussion, and more important.
07:59:41 I'm looking now 2. so here are kitty sharing the notes.
07:59:47 But they were also a set of action. items so I think if we can follow up on the action items that would be great, because I'm always concerned.
07:59:56 We have great ideas, great ambition, and we define the next steps.
08:00:03 And and because we not necessarily meet very often as cost community they collapse, and it's only the next big even we think about that.
08:00:14 So so I hope that this time the people were leading a We don't sure that we don't wait another 6 months.
08:00:20 We don't know it to meet in book to to meet in theater whatever to resume the discussion.
08:00:29 Okay, Katherine, the this is beyond. if I may.
08:00:34 Yeah, Hi. So you mentioned about thest so we are monitoring these use cases because we are waiting for Poc for connection to Mco.
08:00:48 And also we looking at more how we're gonna west touch point between on it and Mco.
08:00:51 So once there's just set up so in use case 0.
08:00:56 Then ast print to participate that the use case is M. code.
08:01:02 So just for information. So initially, we, you know, calling the Kubernetes directly.
08:01:06 But we are monitoring these M. co use cases okay, Okay, that's good.
08:01:14 I think a lot of people is monitoring the alignments.
08:01:18 I believe we have reached. We have rich Constances from now.
08:01:25 Now we need to look at the next level of details and as some one of you said Today it's the requirements, and the use case to demonstrate the the poor bringing the 2 together good.
08:01:43 If there is any additional feedback regarding the Ddf.
08:01:47 Even I would. Just we go back to agenda and at the same time I'm trying to excuse me.
08:02:07 I was drinking So the on-up committee awards.
08:02:12 As you know, we have frozen the money nomination.
08:02:15 We will need to kick off the world, although we don't have so many candidates.
08:02:21 So I think 2 it will be a don't deal but we still need to work on the con the nomination for the award related to the testing and the the the code.
08:02:41 The the top coder because that's something we we have looked at, finalized, due to other priorities.
08:02:47 It does not mean that we don't want to recognize or it's just.
08:02:52 They have been a lot to do over the past week, as you can guess.
08:02:56 Nevertheless, if you are fancy to spend the next 30 min with me, I would like to kick off again, and the discussion about priorities and the action plan that we want to drive probably need these priorities may have changed since other stuff pop
08:03:19 up so I don't know if you can do you want to share string to see if I can find.
08:03:32 Let me give me 1 min because I can I can pull up the presentation.
08:03:40 I've got it you do so i'm I'm. just and not so I need to train my Bc.
08:04:23 But freezing so again. Oh, I know why I cannot share I I am on the wiki, but I don't have a session to share. I don't want to be the time of everybody you want me just to pull
08:04:46 up the the presentation because I need to do a tricks, because I was just on time to attend the on up Tc.
08:04:56 Calls, so I use my ipad to to have the audio ready, and I forget to reconnect with the laptop.
08:05:04 So I I can. I can share. So no, I should be with you.
08:05:09 Okay, I believe I don't have any concern to share Yeah, yes.
08:05:16 You need to give the the presentation the presentation right on the new Katrina.
08:05:21 Okay, So we board up there we go. Yeah. no. I have the control of my life.
08:05:37 I think we probably all need to refresh our will move to slide, show for visibility, for pose, and I will skip the first slide, and there will.
08:05:50 I just want to evaluate with you. Maybe there is other stuff, because, of course, we spend sometime to, you know, work on the unemployment.
08:05:59 We spend some time on discussing as the modern as well.
08:06:05 So i'm thinking to add them as part of the priorities because it's a mission to to conclude on on the challenge, or shared by the on-up community.
08:06:15 So these 2 are will definitely add 2 part of of priority. if you don't mind no looking at what left Just wanted to to have an open discussion.
08:06:28 Shun to see if we have still right focus I let's have a look.
08:06:37 So the first item that we decide They were so concerned, raised by the to seek the Security Ship Committee, but also by order on our team members concerning what we do with the unmaintained project, I believe that it should remain part
08:06:54 of priority, because since then there have been a lot of engagement.
08:07:02 David is. David is owning, hosting a meeting every Monday, discussing with the task force the only part that we have not yet really addressed.
08:07:15 So far was something we discussed in the bus about. Do we need to define an own-up, Mvp?
08:07:24 We provide capability like picn jews so meaning that anybody wants to use on up today can decide which component they want to use for their own projection. performance.
08:07:37 But I don't think we really States and i'm sorry if I've missed the work performed by the architecture of suburb performed by the requirement supervity.
08:07:48 Not sure we really spell out. although we know Bell orange spark.
08:07:52 I hope you saw the announcement by spark that they are moving in production with zone up now.
08:07:56 They have their own small settings at the beginning, when they move, and also Dt.
08:08:04 I apologize to to Thomas So can we be inspired by what this company has been doing?
08:08:12 Or do we need to spend it all so that's the question I wanted to ask for theatre? and then I make a book for the alternative.
08:08:20 It was more. We have key component like for like d map.
08:08:25 It's not an unm main project because there have been a lot of work shared to this Tsc.
08:08:32 To the ptn about deema transformation. but they are here, which is an un maintained, or we have explored.
08:08:39 I still at 1 point in mesh, and then nothing was really conclude, and we are still using F, which is still out maintained.
08:08:50 So. so i'll make a pool do you also share the same feeling that it's part of of priority 200, and we put on Shirley need to work furthermore on the Mvp.
08:09:01 Path. Don't forget if you want to talk you join the meeting Muted.
08:09:16 If you want to unmute you, and you need to do Star 6, I think, in you.
08:09:25 But define Mvp. because for my experience for different use cases, there might be different.
08:09:34 Mvps, for example, this week we heard from the Uncle project that they're considering maybe using something that we Cds
08:09:47 and then the you know, go to Telecom Orange may have other ideas for Mdp.
08:09:52 So maybe the energy there's more than one Mvp.
08:09:57 This is one. Yeah, I I can cool with with Ronnie there.
08:10:04 I think it's very important that you you can have the opportunity to pick and choose a cherry peak projects in Inona for you.
08:10:18 The purpose, and I think it stiffs difficult for us to to actually now, exactly how ownup will be consumed, and maybe we are sort of spending a lot of effort on trying to put together. the way we think it will be move you and and then it's
08:10:38 it's not relevant and that would be a pity that's good feedback.
08:10:52 So based on what you said. Maybe this definition of Mvp.
08:10:58 Mighty fair from a use case to another. There is no more need somehow, to have an Mvp.
08:11:03 2. then we should better focused on alternative of solution.
08:11:09 Where, we still need an authentication, and not authorization component to support the suite, and but not spend time to define an Mvp.
08:11:21 Because It's use case specific right yeah that's a good.
08:11:27 It's a good summary. Okay, Well, I might then are we not doing?
08:11:33 No, I'm just taking notes. so the tsc is fine With that we will continue, anyway, to analyze the concert.
08:11:42 Please buy the omending project focusing on I alternative.
08:11:48 When this component of studios in degrees, and we we throw the Mvp.
08:11:56 Concept from now, because it had to be, Please do in per use case for customer specific.
08:12:04 So. so, David and I know anybody who is participating to the un maintained project.
08:12:10 Would you like to add anything that i've not yet covered under this parity, Thomas here?
08:12:22 So maybe a comment to the unmaintained meeting on Monday, which is more and more now going also to to at least the discussion goes to to define a sunset process for on-up, projects which we don't think
08:12:46 it's currently Am implemented so and it's not what's a documented, unfortunately, and then also dependencies between the projects are a major issue.
08:13:05 But only if you know what kind of dependency an unmaintained project has to other projects, then you can remove it immediately immediately, and maybe not so.
08:13:19 This is a quite a good discussion. We have on the Monday meeting Now it's unm maintained.
08:13:24 It's about unmaintained projects it's about the sunsetting of projects.
08:13:31 It's about release management, and also coming from there we had internally.
08:13:36 We had the distant discussion of an of the own up Mvp.
08:13:41 Or what is a what? what are they on up? core modules?
08:13:45 And maybe the answer to the on-up core modules is there.
08:13:49 There is no core, because it always relates on what you like to do with zone up.
08:13:55 And then the Mvp. comes into into place that we say, Okay, if you typically want to do this, then you need this set of modules, and if you do something other than you, maybe you need a total different set of modules,
08:14:14 but having a definition for this also. that then gives guidance on where to focus and do to reach production, readiness would be helpful.
08:14:28 I think, not only for for for onup itself, but to focus for a security to focus for release management, to focus for documentation.
08:14:41 Yeah, but that's my 2 set thank you thomas so do you think we should live forulate the objective based on what you said.
08:15:03 It's I think the the the unmaintained code it's where we started.
08:15:10 But it's, I think I think we should target on a also a good signset process for managing unmaintained projects.
08:15:21 So if a repository, if code gets unmaintained typically, they, the project is and responsible to to manage it.
08:15:32 But if there is no ptl and no contributing community anymore, then the problem starts and having a good process that says, Okay, how we are managing dependencies, how we assess the dependencies in the in the in the early
08:15:51 days, and what must be done by release engineering with whistle repositories with strengthen drops whatever comes into.
08:16:00 So this is not documented So it's more about a sunset process for for projects.
08:16:08 Yeah, where we can, we can. We can formulate it this way but it's my opinion.
08:16:18 So maybe i'd like to jump in here so this is a shocker.
08:16:25 So the I think I think we might we probably need yet another category right?
08:16:32 I'm not suggesting it just because we need one more but just to clarify the the label that we're given to projects.
08:16:45 Don't, have ptls right so I could foresee a case where it's an we have a project that is unmaintained, and yet it's still being used or a project that is unmaintained but no one
08:16:58 is using it right. Think the first case is the challenging one for us, and that's the one that we basically deal with on regular basis.
08:17:08 How do we classify a project that is unmaintained and Yet it's still critical to the success of other components of in other projects.
08:17:17 And to me that's probably where we should focus on initially to see how we should move forward from one release to another.
08:17:33 Okay, So what I should just is maybe based on all the feedback that I received today.
08:17:41 I will work offline with. but to my shaker others do he formulate, but I think it's still one of our priority for this year, because we are learning.
08:17:52 We've been learning about the impact, and they are still a lot to do to have it more smoothly when we make a delivery, or when we deploy it, and so on.
08:18:05 So I will keep, and we'll reformulate the first objective in alignment with what has been discussed today.
08:18:15 Let me move to the second items, which is somehow the work that we we have today.
08:18:22 2 task force, as you know, the Cnx task force, and also the end of High Stars force.
08:18:28 Both of them were presenting some time ago. they hook up, and how we can accelerate this Hope map by by having the Quran people working on it, but also engaging additional companies depending on the use case that we want to address 2
08:18:46 100. So I believe that if we want to maintain of the very differentiation versus being a network automation platform, but continue to be leverage part of the open hand and continue to be leverage, the context of on top price market these tests
08:19:05 will need to keep going, and we have quite engagement. in these communities in this task force.
08:19:12 So I would suggest, we maintain, because these are all under code or research and development.
08:19:19 Team on top of what we are doing as part of the history.
08:19:22 So if Tts you agree, I think this priority should keep going.
08:19:28 Anything wants to want anything about the summer 100? No, I think this is good. So we should monitor that that we actually get a contributions also from from enterprise.
08:19:51 A company or yeah enterprise parties coming in to to understand that that they are sort of engaging.
08:19:59 And at least sort of at least testing and evaluate in in the survey a concrete way. and the reserved Some of the reason of the task of Cnf task was, I want again to give Kiddos to
08:20:19 lookas and sisters not there, and everybody we have made contributing, I hope I don't forget too much.
08:20:25 100 names of people who on this bridge I mean, we see the power of the Cfo.
08:20:32 So and it is part of the readings as well so It's not only we do please see at 1 point we move the learning into the release, So anybody can benefit from the world done by the task.
08:20:45 Force. so I believe we are in agreement on the item 2 and I don't need to reformulate it.
08:20:51 No, we have this goal. i'm looking at the third one We had this goal to migrate to Github.
08:20:57 The oem team was a prototype team, because they have some particular needs, and, unfortunately, as you are aware, although we can still count on silver as part of this jacket, it is sees the opportunity to thanks the silver and the o and team again for
08:21:17 all the good contribution they did. They help us to move forward to define how we need to counter the eyes of package, and so on.
08:21:31 And but I don't know is it is it still a wish to continue to migrate to bit lap.
08:21:40 Oh, we stay where we are because we have a review challenge, rebuild or intel, win fever lab.
08:21:47 So maybe we could see a hippocampus that I I don't know.
08:21:52 I'm not sure how the community feel about moving to give up this year.
08:21:57 So that's a question mark that maybe we can also ask the ptn.
08:22:02 It could be a nighttime for the Ptr. mit Ctl.
08:22:03 And before we reconfirm this objective what do you think?
08:22:12 Get really learn from the experience of Oh, can we do like a readout and share of their experience?
08:22:20 So others can be sad. Yeah, Erika are you still with us i'm not sure.
08:22:26 I see Sylvan, do you think it's possible that silver samurai is a little bit all the good points.
08:22:34 Yes, please. Yeah, I think. so. yeah, yeah, we just yeah, we can ask him to Exactly.
08:22:42 Do you think it is it? Is it actually used for oem?
08:22:48 Because let maybe the information is but okay, Thank you. So like, if you can come back to us, if it is something you think we can 35, you want that you want to appear presentation next.
08:23:08 Next ts here on your Pg. and meeting, or when the next Tsc.
08:23:13 Will be probably dedicated to the mines milestone for so i'll take it on 31.
08:23:25 Okay, The next items. I will leave it on, honey, because you you are of Mac, a representative. You are doing all the marketing around all that supporting by the team.
08:23:41 So I tend to say we should always have this objective.
08:23:45 Every year. But maybe behind this object, if you have some particular ass to the Tsc.
08:23:52 And the community. No, I don't think anything changed dramatically.
08:23:59 We, I think, from the marketing side. the Fans wants to focus on like adoption and successful use cases.
08:24:06 So. there's been a few recently touched telecom comes to mind, but I know there are others.
08:24:14 Did some good promotion of they're use of owner so please keep up this good work, and there are additional opportunities.
08:24:23 I'll be happy to work with with the people who are deploying on up, and how we can make make your success more public and maybe draw more participation.
08:24:48 Tool. Okay? good. We talk about the world. It is true that we had some delay to finalize the instant rule award.
08:24:58 So apologize for that. but it's still criticized to rework of team members.
08:25:03 Another way to pull what they are doing. they're contribution is currently schooled attack budgeting.
08:25:11 You So probably some present. somety. members have started to receive the leadership tack badging the other budget that will be delivered this year for different opportunities.
08:25:26 I think it's important in alignment with the find that we have people after the release. we should also continue to support the tech budget, because it's another way to to to to reflect on on saying Thank you anybody who has
08:25:45 contributing to the on-up community, or even beyond.
08:25:48 So I would suggest this one stay and and honey again.
08:25:52 I know you are part of the attack as a vice chair.
08:25:55 Would you like to say few words about the tag budget?
08:26:01 Yeah, we worked hard on setting up this this environment for badging so it's all in place.
08:26:11 So if you have any, what kind of type of behavior is, or activities you want to recognize or encourage you, then the system is in place, and there is a process to create new types of vegans.
08:26:25 So 250 please reach out to the attack, and we can, with creating new types of badges. Yeah.
08:26:32 So I dropped into the into the chat window the the link for the we where I've been starting to pull together.
08:26:47 Know some of the own app specific badges i'll be sending out an email to the Tsc.
08:26:54 Asking for folks to look at that and then formalize that and once formalized, then we can just start moving forward.
08:27:03 The main question that I had was whether we want to have separate badges for each each type of community award which could get a little bit administratively heavy versus just having a a kind of one size fits all badge
08:27:28 for community award winner anyways the links there i'll drop it into the into the meeting minutes, as well, all right.
08:27:54 I'm just reading. I was mentioning earlier the importance of of group native Cnf and enterprise Hope Map.
08:28:01 There is another type of homework which is led by a lot of project team, which is the continuity of evolving of amount of project based on the imaging, imaging technology.
08:28:19 Why we are trying to remain backward compatible when it's possible.
08:28:24 Just want to take sees the opportunity to give a kiddos to Kaka with leading.
08:28:34 September technology change sdema. that was also presented few months ago.
08:28:39 Dc. 18. We have been also with Vg. removing all the clodified pieces of we have to transformation, which is also tied to the Cnf task force of Big Kiddos.
08:28:51 Again to look at issue, and and anybody contribute to that 2 owner package for Smo, which was an initiative led by Christoff.
08:29:03 So thank you so much. We have Ibm: the Internet based networking led by Dong, the fiveg network slicing.
08:29:10 We have Oshankar representative this area, and so on.
08:29:14 So you see, there have been a lot of transformation without really talking today about that.
08:29:19 I think it's important that what they are next or we continue to che home the team to go in this direction.
08:29:29 So that should remain part of our priorities to support the team as well.
08:29:34 Any feedback comments about this new objective. Okay, So we are on alignment.
08:29:49 Last, but not least, and we have been trying to have a formalized agreement with the Oprah Run open a C talk lever.
08:30:00 The talk lever is equivalent to the Tsc.
08:30:02 Of all app I recognize it's not that I gave up. it's just because i've been put on other own-up emergency concern, as you know, therefore, I had to do something in this one was below on my task list
08:30:19 2 know that we have probably well progress on the asd.
08:30:25 Well, progress on the Mco. alignment will refocus on trying to have this formalized agreement.
08:30:33 Somehow technique anywhere There, right we are there because the I think it is the the group 6, maybe Shanghai.
08:30:40 You need to collect me, but some kind of somehow. the Organis Sea is already adopting indirectly what we do.
08:30:47 The technical team is using a couple of ona component like policy.
08:30:55 The service ofchestrator I don't have the list, because my but a couple of items we have the asd description as well.
08:31:04 So we need to do more, because I think if we have an alignment at the top Tse level. It will be the sharing on top of the pipe.
08:31:12 I don't know if you say that in English but we say that inference.
08:31:17 So shan care any thought. I know you were eager to help me to progress on that one.
08:31:23 But I recognize, could not find the bandwidth to pursue the discussion.
08:31:29 Just thanks. thanks, Katherine. Just some comments on this topic like you said, a lot is already happening.
08:31:38 So from from the on App. Dc. we have, I think, been is on both on Ftc. and the Osc.
08:31:47 Talk Vin Yang, and then he and then Timo myself.
08:31:55 We are usually in all the Doc meetings, and then there is.
08:32:01 Then there is a group of people who who try to harmonize find commonality and avoid duplication.
08:32:08 So every Wednesday there is the orn Se. Osc.
08:32:14 Own app harmonization meetings. So so there are people trying to find commonalities and harmonization and avoid duplication.
08:32:24 But what might be missing is sort of from a program level at the toc.
08:32:32 I don't think there is any explicit recognition of the fact that own app is also an open source project, and it has a lot of relevance, especially when you come to the orn Smo level.
08:32:47 So do you have a bin or t-mo do you have comments on this.
08:32:51 I'm sure you you're quite aware of all the issues involved.
08:32:57 Yeah visiting high. I represent the reverend River in the she was saying, and meeting, and I will like kind of build to hammerize between the own app and go run as the community.
08:33:17 The my frogs on the auto interface and our cloud this regard, so i'm in it's always in my mind to how her own application can support world.
08:33:31 How do not align to the old o 2, interface 30 is something in my mind, and if I got can you, Id your monsieur.
08:33:42 I are proposed to own up as a way out as well as to Orient state.
08:33:49 Right now, we what we are doing in the rays that we contribute to Oh Cloud, where she named the I have Project, and then we develop it out to service on top of the O Cloud part of the Ok.
08:34:05 O 2 interface in implementation our cloud side. so maybe.
08:34:11 Next on release we we are going to try to see to.
08:34:17 Some Pc. How America can integrate with that O. 2 services.
08:34:21 So if we can go with that interaction, I I think we can do more than to to increase our promotes the own app as smo inside of the horizon segment.
08:34:40 Just wanted to add beyond. besides the o 2 interface there's a lot of common work on the o one interface, and also the a one interface.
08:34:51 All of these are actively discussed in some form or the other.
08:34:55 Yeah, yeah. I I have heard of that now. I had noticed that.
08:35:02 And personally I I would have to know more about that.
08:35:04 You find out time. Yeah, Appreciate these for your information.
08:35:17 So i'm i'm glad that and and and again it's. Not that I was not aware of it. but I know what these items I was not able to lead myself, but when I see the patient of some of you on these topics
08:35:32 i'm sure somebody can maybe accelerate the format agreement, and that's that's good.
08:35:38 We have all the feeling that we have a whole to play 2 to one. it's still already existing.
08:35:45 I think it's just a question to formalizing properly Violet Pascin is what we still need to have the discussion with the talk.
08:35:54 So what this goal, based on your feedback is confirmed as being part of our Tsc.
08:36:01 Priority. So we overrun, I think, for next week we have the release.
08:36:08 I will clean up the deck, integrate your feedback of today.
08:36:13 And then on the following slide: yeah you don't like that But I really need to have some support the idea to to have a tse champion 250 for each hierarchy to have a tsc
08:36:25 champion. because I will not be able to be honest with you to derive these 2.
08:36:32 I don't know many we have 8 track so if some Tsc.
08:36:36 Can help to drive the track. I will be always happy to help.
08:36:42 At least we can go to work on this action acts.
08:36:48 Item. The Tca champion is important, but if there is somebody I heard too much with already of Ptl for the documentation deeply engaged on the first call as well as the second city community, it does not need necessary to be a
08:37:04 Tse champion when there is already a lot of attraction on the topic.
08:37:10 But having somebody pinned onify a group of people in notified to continue to work on this track will help So we can do.
08:37:19 We can have read out later. Share the result. of the different priorities that's that's my intent.
08:37:26 Okay, So back to you, Kenny. I think I cover that. and I I really thank you all of you for all the feedback you you gave today.
08:37:34 2, and I will try to. He address the goal accordingly.
08:37:39 Thank you so much. Okay, since we're over I will just quickly say the
08:37:50 Many of you probably have received an email from the Lf.
08:37:53 About saving the date for the one summit North America and our fall developer and test forum the This will be held in Seattle, Washington here in the U.
08:38:05 S. The one summit will be November fifteenth, and sixteenth.
08:38:13 The developer testing Forum will be November the seventeenth and eighteenth.
08:38:20 So that week. And basically that's it more information to follow Yeah.
08:38:27 And the final confirmation. We have the Spc.