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Sandra Jackson: Okay, we're gonna give it another minute or so.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, everyone. Good morning.

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Up on the screen. Our regular reminders.

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Sandra Jackson: Tse meeting is being recorded. All participants are muted upon entry. If you're doubt and any need to speak, you can press Star 6 to unmute yourself.

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Sandra Jackson: and then just the antitrust policy. Notice here.

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Sandra Jackson: all right on the agenda for today.

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Sandra Jackson:  we have some updates.

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Sandra Jackson: own app takeo updates. And then the S

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Sandra Jackson: Sdn CI don't think that we were sure about that, but we'll ask about it release. And then

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Sandra Jackson: summer lunge updates. And then our regular subcommittee updates and then housekeeping.

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Are there any questions or any additions to today's agenda?

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Paweł Pawlak: Just one comment, Sandra, I've added at the very end of this er of this agenda. But I think quite important notification about this mentorship program.

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Paweł Pawlak: I know that Shankar was interested. So so it was discussed at the last talk, and and Mundas are shared shared with me. Some, some updates. So

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Paweł Pawlak: yeah, there, there are some rules at the very, at the very bottom

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Paweł Pawlak: at the very bottom.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: So I'm thanks, Powell. Actually, I'm I'm just about to submit a proposal.

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Paweł Pawlak: So you can read that there there are like free slots in total.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: And actually they were.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: or one at least 2 days back, there were enough proposals. Now there are 2, and I'm gonna have from

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: one on

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: so to do with Nlp, use of nlp, for I mean, there are 2 projects. Currently, I'm gonna add one.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: it it is actually, yeah. Let

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: we can talk about it later if you want to.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: No.

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Sandra Jackson: alright. Well, so we'll jump into it.

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Sandra Jackson:  I don't. Okay. I guess I forgot to put a name there. But do we need to talk about the Cloud native Telco Cnti.

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Paweł Pawlak: In fact, Sandra, we discuss it last time is just an update that okay, there is. there is some migration of the of the

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Paweł Pawlak: repositories, or, you know, documentation

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Paweł Pawlak: on this. So just to keep everyone on the same page.

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Paweł Pawlak: And yeah, we have. So some also, briefly discussed last week. So keep going

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Paweł Pawlak: will be presenting to Etsy about the on-up Progress report.

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Paweł Pawlak: So we we've been briefly discussing last week on what could be the topics. But maybe, guys, if you have any other suggestions, or you know.

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Paweł Pawlak: and

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Paweł Pawlak: and the topics that you could highlight to egg Wang so he could present

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Paweł Pawlak: complete ve complete update to to add C, so please don't hesitate.

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Keguang He: Yes, one comment. Yes, I have a provider, at least report.

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Keguang He: And if

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Keguang He: if it was under this meeting Hood next week, not a next month.

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Paweł Pawlak: because this is for the next week, not not next month.

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Keguang He: Hold on, let me see. Where are we talking about modifying

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Keguang He: our dancing report next week, I will show those information to Chelsea

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Paweł Pawlak: Keegan. Do you plan to share by email or even present today what you already have. Maybe it'd be easier for the Tsc team to to provide some comments or updates.

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Keguang He: Okay, it. Okay, I can share

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Keguang He: my, yes, materials

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Keguang He: I can share.

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Keguang He: Go ahead just just a bit.

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Keguang He: Can you see my slides?

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Paweł Pawlak: Yes, yes, we can see. Okay

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Keguang He: for this laser report. First

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other information about

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Keguang He: an appenter in this.

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and add a link about the release notes. and also also assures that

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Keguang He: onap is evolving, and the communicator took efforts in streaming and progress. Processes under rules and

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Keguang He: make sure this is the first one with the grid, simple, simplifying. The software will develop life cycle governance.

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Keguang He: And this is the first page.

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Keguang He: the information release.

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Has been launched, and this is their release plan

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Keguang He: and then insert the inserted page. I

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show the information about it. AI becomes a semi communicate.

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Keguang He: accommodate, and the first information is established. Yeah, task force.

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Keguang He: and secondly, is about on app created to Uai related requirements.

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Keguang He: First is introducing general generative AI solution based on large models. Second, is the data service enhancements of Internet driver network.

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Keguang He: And in last page I give a detailed information about general to a solution based on large models. Because we want to.

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We we want to ask. We want. We want more. People can

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Keguang He: join this project to tour

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Keguang He: to, to, to do more, to do more. AI related work together with us.

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Keguang He: Okay, that's all for my listen. Report. Thank you.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you. Kingon guys, any comments, any suggestions to

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Paweł Pawlak: to provide any updates.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I think it looks good. Looks good. Yeah.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, thank you. Keep going.

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Keguang He: Okay, if we have any. feedback. And next week I will show the information to Jesse. Okay, thank you.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yes, yes, thank you.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright. Thank you. Keegwon.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright, so

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Sandra Jackson: can we move to Sdn C update, do we have? Yes, in fact, in fact, we had this discussion, and and the one of the Pts call and then

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Paweł Pawlak: share with us different options and alternatives. Obviously one of them is is that is no like

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Paweł Pawlak: mark down as an alternative forest. It's not the one that we would like to follow right? Not preferred.

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Paweł Pawlak: So yeah, we, we, our our ultimate goal is go

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Paweł Pawlak: going towards the Rfc 80 for to support.

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Paweł Pawlak: So this is what we'd like to achieve.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yeah. So there are also news from the colleagues who is working on it on our side. So regarding the SO. Updates, and he said that

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): there seems to be a effort needed on the Sdn. C side, because

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT):  Let's say, observations that. Seems that the Sdn C

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): prefixing of the code is not correct. So he, I will put that into the slack. Basically

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Byung-Woo Jun: for that

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): to check so that's at least his finding. So he

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): try to to patch this on, for on the so side. And he said that there there is some issue. Still on the

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): on the Sdn. C side to be done to fix this. Finally, I will put this to the Sdn. C. Slack.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Own up channel so that Dan can read that

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Paweł Pawlak: exactly. Umhm. Yeah. thank you for sherin and dress.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): There's also some problems still, and I think I have for Sdn. CI have also shared this in the slack channel, but I don't know if someone is reading it. This Cha slack channel, as I see. So III had last week.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): no, 2 weeks ago. III sent that no last week. Sorry. No. 2 weeks ago. So there is also with the Dg builder. There is needs to be an update

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): to be done on the Sdn C side. So this is not working since a couple of releases. Obviously.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): so the question is, is there someone working on it? But maybe we can take the Ptole.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, so let's put it into the Ptl's whole agenda for the

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Paweł Pawlak: with the Monday session.

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Paweł Pawlak: Sandra, do you mind to add a comment that

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Paweł Pawlak: that needs to be informed right on the potential

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Paweł Pawlak: changes in the Sdn sea

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Paweł Pawlak: for so compatibility. Right

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Paweł Pawlak: with prefixes.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay? Sorry. Say it again, Babo.

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Paweł Pawlak: Dantimani.

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Sandra Jackson: yeah.

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Paweł Pawlak: they're gonna come up. Oh, nice

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Byung-Woo Jun: audience team, maybe better.

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Sandra Jackson: I think it's as states between, okay?

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Byung-Woo Jun: See?

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yes. Last one. Yeah.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: okay. Needs to be informed

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Paweł Pawlak: about.

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Paweł Pawlak: did you find findings in Sr.

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Sandra Jackson: Et findings. Did you say nso

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Paweł Pawlak: in this? Oh, yes.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Service orchestrator.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I'm sorry I cannot catch it. Say it again in IN,

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Byung-Woo Jun: I don't know

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Byung-Woo Jun: you lost control, Sandra.

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Paweł Pawlak: as so just yes.

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Paweł Pawlak: no end. Okay. Yeah.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright. please don't have anymore. Is that it?

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Byung-Woo Jun: No, no, no, let's move on.

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Sandra Jackson: cause the typing is really bad this morning. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so moving on. Oh, they on, do you have? Can I? Share my screen?

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Sandra Jackson: Sure can hold on. Let me stop sharing.

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Sandra Jackson: Oh, let me do update on this. And now stop sharing. Okay.

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Sandra Jackson: you have it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, just briefly, just for discussion. Let me know if you see my screen.

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Sandra Jackson: Yep, let me see your screen

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Byung-Woo Jun: oops. That's it.

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Byung-Woo Jun: The we fill up the all the spaces.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I'm not sure the Andreas do you still need to work on this? Or it's kind of done?

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): It's still still pending from my side, because there will be some updates still ongoing

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): other things. There will be some, some changes, and a recent changes will be, for example, that can you scroll down if the policy framework. Okay, this will be

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): policy framework will be up to 14 0 0. So at the moment there's a patch ongoing for that. So we will have to. First my major update.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, yeah, I will. I would. I will test this at the weekend

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): and then we would have done a new version here as well. So we there are multiple steps things ongoing in parallel.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, great. And the next one key update

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Byung-Woo Jun: the, you know getting filling up.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Sdnc, I ask Dan, to fill up information. I think the meaning is I contact session contact. You know, Mike Morris, and put Sdn. Waiting for Dan Timon's reply.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I think other than that. Yes, filling up. And also we are filling additional table.

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Byung-Woo Jun: for example.

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Byung-Woo Jun: some change management change control loop. I'm not sure any changes in this area based on the intent I don't want. The you have any changes please fill up. Otherwise we're gonna change the no changes. But if you wanna do something under change control and change management, please. Philip, here, just I tried to ask.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And I'm gonna fill up toxic to subcommittee changes

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Byung-Woo Jun: and modeling at most likely no changes standard, no changes. And I'm gonna fill up this some, you know, remaining stuff, and other than that, I we are getting there. So anyway.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So that's my report back to you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Thank you. Bjun.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay, hold on. Let's see, where would that leave off here? Alright. So Andreas, did you have any updates? On

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Sandra Jackson: assessing nexus nexus?

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): I received some information from our site. So, as I

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): heard, is that some backgrounds here? So Dt had extended its capacities to cogent

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Supposing that maybe it could be

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): we could, or you could take from the provider side. So where the nexus is.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): IP address, or Dt. URL like a devops telecom de or something.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): and maybe check W. What is the output here? So that was what I received from one of my networking guys which have internally then contacted other nok people

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): So that is

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): because yeah. So the I suspect that

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT):  for the nexus. It's already nexus is hosted, or let's say it has it somehow.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): let's say some arrangement with them. But I'm I'm not 100% sure. So this is just a small remark which I which I got. I will still test that capacity from our side, but I haven't done that yet, so I have to do that. So it's still, let's say, ongoing, and maybe we'll have to check

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): on which side we need to say, a create a ticket on

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): too cogent, basically to check that.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): That's my information which I have at the moment. So. But we are trying and and trying to solve that also on this. Yeah.

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Paweł Pawlak: thank you. Andress. All fingers are crossed.

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Andreas GEISSLER (DT): Yep.

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Paweł Pawlak: I guess we don't have any specific update today for the container signing right? So

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Paweł Pawlak: work in progress with other projects. Right?

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Sandra Jackson: Not sure.

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Jessica Wagantall: yeah, correct. I mean, it's a it's I think. At the moment we could potentially drop the topic from the agenda since the issue that was reported last. Tsc. Was just a misunderstanding from another project. So I think.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan:  So this is the can. You see? I think you can see. My. yes, perfect. Umhm. Yeah. So yes, we saw that

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: And now, Nephio are all trying to collaborate and all that. And so we submitted this proposal. Let me just kind of scroll down. The mentors are myself. There is Ivan Sescar at Rutgers, Vinlab.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: I mean, can there be more than one intern for a project. I think they're talking about the interns.

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Sandra Jackson: not not the number of. But I will get clarity on that. Later today I do.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: It's in the chat.

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Sandra Jackson: I was in the chat. Okay, I was looking in the agenda. Okay, got it. I'm gonna add it to the agenda.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Thank you.

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Sandra Jackson: Thank you. Alright, let's see. So oh, I guess I need to share again.

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Sandra Jackson:  just add this to the agenda. So that was it. Unless there's anything additional anyone has to add

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Sandra Jackson: last minute.

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Byung-Woo Jun: No, I don't have it.

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Sandra Jackson: Okay. It's down here. Sorry I define my space.

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Sandra Jackson: Alright. Well, with that, then you

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Sandra Jackson: get some time back today.

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Sandra Jackson:  and everyone have a good one. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Alright. Thank you.

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Keguang He: You. Bye-bye.

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Sandra Jackson: bye.

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Okay, let me go back.