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13:47:21 <kennypaul> #startmeeting VF2F-2018-02-05
13:47:21 <collabot`> Meeting started Mon Feb  5 13:47:21 2018 UTC.  The chair is kennypaul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:49:01 <kennypaul> #chair phrobb, BinY_, SteveT
13:49:01 <collabot`> Warning: Nick not in channel: BinY_
13:49:01 <collabot`> Current chairs: BinY_ SteveT kennypaul phrobb
14:01:13 <SteveT> #info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson
14:03:47 <JasonHunt> #info Jason Hunt, IBM
14:04:13 <gilbert> #info mazin gilbert
14:04:51 <RannyHaiby> #info Ranny Haiby, Nokia
14:09:57 <DhananjayPavgi> #info Dhananjay Pavgi, Tech Mahindra Ltd
14:12:49 <SteveT> #topic Architecture Review and approval
14:13:33 <SteveT> #info Chris Donley presented the Beijing architecture
14:14:01 <SteveT> #info This includes the high level architecture. Chris quickly went through each module
14:15:56 <SteveT> #info There was a question regarding what was the difference between the Amsterdam and the Beijing architecture.
14:16:40 <Zhaoxing_Meng> #info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE
14:16:46 <Lingli> #info Lingli, China Mobile
14:17:55 <SteveT> #info Response was that there is a number of visual changes. Functional changes was to include kubernetites, highlight PNFs more, music is added.
14:18:57 <SteveT> #info there was question about kubernetes. It was clarified that it is being supported. Then there was the comment to remove the commercial VIM and public cloud boxes instead of the specificlly mentioned ones
14:19:18 <SteveT> #info it was commented that we do need a version control so we know which is the last one.
14:20:53 <SteveT> #info Chris will make the changes and come back during the week for voting.
14:24:20 <SteveT> #info The use of swagger is recomended. The documentation team is assuming the use of Swagger to document the APIs
14:28:09 <SteveT> #info Vote on the architecture will be on Thursday
14:29:20 <kennypaul> #topic Security Subcommittee
14:29:30 <DhananjayPavgi> #info Dhananjay Pavgi, Tech Mahindra Ltd
14:33:44 <kennypaul> #info SteveT reviewed the slides attached to the agenda page.
14:34:00 <kennypaul> #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/VF2F+Feb.+5-8%2C+2017
14:45:09 <kennypaul> #link to CII video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhLYLpsvvc0
14:45:22 <cdonley> #info Chris Donley Huawei
14:55:54 <SteveT> #topic Standardized Config Management, Mike Elliot
14:56:46 <SteveT> #Mike presented a bit on the configuration management that the OOM team is doing
15:01:44 <SteveT> #info Mike presented a bit on the configuration management that the OOM team is doing
15:03:39 <SteveT> #info After using the config approach from OOM there will not be the docker config
15:04:31 <kennypaul> #info LFIT ticket mentioned is 51784
15:31:43 <SteveT> #topic Certificate, Secure Storage, Authentification.AAF-CSM by Ram Koya, Srinivasa Addepalli, Jonathan Gathman
15:35:13 <SteveT> #info Jonathan walked through the AAF capabilities
15:35:19 <SteveT> #link https://wiki.onap.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=3247151
15:41:54 <SteveT> #info There was a question on how authentication should work, should the user log into every service inside onap seperately or log-on to ONAP as a whole.
15:47:38 <SteveT> #info The response is that AAF is working with oath. Then there is token passing capabilities and approach discussed in the security sub-committee.
15:57:09 <SteveT> #info The APIs are there in the AAF section
15:58:39 <SteveT> #info ONAP projects can today start with userid / Password. The use of certificates is coming
15:59:25 <SteveT> #info the adapters will handle the change from userid / password to certificates
16:01:48 <kennypaul> #endmeeting

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13:49:20 <kennypaul> #startmeeting VF2F 2018-02-06
13:49:20 <collabot`> Meeting started Tue Feb  6 13:49:20 2018 UTC.  The chair is kennypaul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:49:49 <collabot`> Warning: Nick not in channel: BinY_
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14:04:29 <SteveT> #topic Lab utilization / availability & Open Lab
14:05:16 <SteveT> #info Chengli Wantg presented ONAP lab availability for Beijing release
14:07:25 <SteveT> #info Morgan Richomme introduced the openlab from orange
14:18:25 <SteveT> #info will try to keep a stable release, not always uptodate on the master branch
14:18:47 <SteveT> #info there was a question about onboarding the vfirewall. The response was it could be
14:19:10 <cdonley> #info Chris Donley Huawei
14:20:38 <SteveT> #info STephen Terrill, Ericsson
14:21:23 <Zhaoxing_Meng> #info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE
14:21:56 <SteveT> #info Considering ONAP as a service to allow people to people to try onboard etc.
14:24:34 <SteveT> #info When registered to the platform, you will be given a readme and jumphost for you as a user.
14:25:09 <SteveT> #info There will be detailed information on the wiki, which will be created soon
14:27:03 <SteveT> #topic How to Leverage Integration Lab for Pairing / Grouping Testing
14:27:16 <SteveT> #info presented by Helen, Rich Bennet, Garry, ...
14:34:20 <SteveT> #info and stephen Gooch
14:36:26 <SteveT> #info Intel lab reserved for demos during feb
14:43:36 <SteveT> #info Rich presented TLAB. Will have a daily build
14:49:04 <SteveT> #info It was suggested to update the physical labs.
14:49:11 <SteveT> #link https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Physical+Labs
14:50:14 <SteveT> #info Gary Wo presented how to deploy OOM using heat.
15:12:52 <SteveT> #topic Integration: Test Review for new features / S3P Measurement
15:13:05 <SteveT> #info presented by Helen Chen
15:14:11 <SteveT> #info Create ONAP "lite" for SE/Architect to test. Also Reference VNFs for scalability testing
15:18:16 <SteveT> #info went over what the integration team will do for s3p requirements
15:22:19 <SteveT> #info Looking at security metrics covered by the integration project.
15:26:54 <SteveT> #info Helen shared the integration projects for resiliencey
15:31:28 <SteveT> #info Helen shared the integration projects plans for Stability, Performance, scalability
15:33:21 <SteveT> #topic: LF infrastructure status - sonar/python, IRC/Chat and other Python tools
15:33:57 <SteveT> #info Presented by Catherine Leferve.
15:37:12 <SteveT> #action LF to ensure test coverage monitoring for phython (sonarpython)
15:39:03 <SteveT> #info Request to include pythong package index. PyPi server for hosting pythong packaages, the release procedures for ONAP developed Pypi packages
15:40:16 <SteveT> #info ticket 44260 exists for the creation of PyPi
15:42:44 <SteveT> #info The ticket is old. Kenny will update on this today.
15:43:37 <SteveT> #info need to document the procedure for adding new pypi packages
15:43:39 <SteveT> #action Use a Scheduled a PTL call to collect and review the PyPi packages to
15:45:28 <SteveT> #info Proposed to use Locust as a load testing framework in the integration team; and also for the developers.
15:45:36 <SteveT> #link https://locust.io/
15:47:33 <SteveT> #info The itegration is looking into it. Helen informed that the integration team plan to use jmeter and locust
15:48:09 <SteveT> #info The question that came is what do we need to do in ONAP to make this available.
15:52:00 <SteveT> #info need a process for submitting and requesting new tools.
15:52:23 <SteveT> #action put on the TSC meeting in 2 weeks.
15:53:20 <SteveT> #topic ONAP Instant Messaging Survey
15:53:35 <SteveT> #info Kenny Paul Presented the ONAP Instant messaging survey.
15:58:09 <SteveT> #info low response rate is recieved as a indication that this implies that this is not a hot issue
15:59:19 <SteveT> #info important to the integration team to reach out to the community, especially near milestones
16:04:59 <SteveT> #info The dicussion was in the direction that we need to have LF to host a messaging application as that is the least likely to be blocked as it won't look like a social media site.
16:08:46 <kennypaul> #endmeeting

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13:45:30 <kennypaul> #startmeeting vf2f 2018-02-07
13:45:30 <collabot`> Meeting started Wed Feb  7 13:45:30 2018 UTC.  The chair is kennypaul. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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14:01:52 <SteveT> #info Stephen Terrill, ERicsson
14:02:25 <Zhaoxing_Meng> #info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE
14:02:52 <cdonley> #info Chris Donley Huawei
14:06:36 <SteveT> #topic MSB Tutorial
14:06:51 <SteveT> #info Huabing Zhao presented the MSB tutorial
14:08:25 <SteveT> #info Huabing also offered that the tutorial can be given to projects upon request.
14:22:36 <SteveT> #info MSB is offering a RPC call, so if there is no exception it should be understood that the message is recieved by the reciever
14:33:53 <kennypaul> #info just a comment for Huabing Zhao... this is the scenario.. the receiver received a message, but the return confirmation communciation is lost. In this case, the sender did not get a successful response. Then, the sender may try to send the same message again even though the receiver received the messge. I guess MSB inherits the HTTP/HTTPS messaging reliability issue. I will contact Huabing off-line.
14:36:17 <SteveT> #topic Modeling subcommittee
14:37:24 <SteveT> #info There are several sub topics here.
14:38:15 <SteveT> #info The first subtopic is Service IM
14:45:06 <SteveT> #info next sub-topic is resource IM
14:45:24 <SteveT> #info PNFD is not defined yet, but it is consiered as a resource IM.
14:49:42 <SteveT> #info there were questions about the relationship between the service and the service component. The response was the service was more related to the customer facing service
14:50:18 <SteveT> #info Not all artifacts are yet captured in the VNF descriptor
14:53:10 <SteveT> #info the resource model is defined in a uniform way (irrespective of whether it is managed by VF-C or APP-C)
14:56:46 <SteveT> #info There was a request to discuss the modelling with the projects at a project level as well.
15:01:15 <SteveT> #info There was a question whether a service that is an infrastructure servce can be used as a service comonent in another service. The answer was that it was thought that substition could use. And it also said a service can be nested to be part of another service.
15:02:20 <SteveT> #info Next sub-topic was data model aspects
15:05:43 <SteveT> #info All datamodel information is available in the modelling sub-committee wikis
15:12:32 <SteveT> #info Discussion about aligning with standards or go for a comosite resource approach as described in the wiki.
15:13:51 <SteveT> #info next subtopic is parser centralization
15:15:30 <SteveT> #info there is a weekly call for the parser tiger team. they are preparing the user stories and requirements. Will look at API access of this parser as a service, exception handling interactation, can a placeholder be created in modelling project to on-board various parsers and abstract them with an API. PoC activities.
15:17:05 <SteveT> #info the PoC is to see if there if the centralized parser makes sense.
15:19:21 <SteveT> #info - question was do the PTLs that are using teh SDC parser today agree they need another library that is remoted. Response. The response was that the OPNF Parser is a good standard parser.
15:20:01 <SteveT> #info it was indicated that the OPNFV parser supuports yaml 1.1, with yaml 1.2 in developement
15:22:26 <SteveT> #info when considering java libraries, consider both python as well as java
15:23:31 <SteveT> #info correction - that was when considering common libraries, consider both python and java
15:25:38 <kennypaul> #link for video https://wiki.onap.org/display/DW/Modeling+tools
15:25:51 <SteveT> #info next subtopic was a papryus tutorial, but suggested to look at the provided link
15:26:08 <SteveT> #info There was a request for contact for all components.
15:33:53 <SteveT> #topic Usecase Subcommittee Review
15:33:58 <SteveT> #info presented by Alla
15:49:50 <SteveT> #info PNF is configured with SDNC as its a L1-L3 PNF
15:58:16 <SteveT> #info PNF support for changemanagement has not discussed change management and scaling. Not expected to be in Beijing.
16:03:46 <SteveT> #info It was noted that there is no SDC Epic for pnf support, SO neither
16:07:33 <kennypaul> #endmeeting

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5:59 AM   <alla_> Alla Goldner #info Alla Goldner, Amdocs
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6:01 AM R<RannyHaiby> purple #info Ranny Haiby, Nokia
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6:01 AM K<kennypaul> Kenny Paul #startmeeting vf2f-2018-02-08
6:01 AM #chair phrobb, BinY_, SteveT
6:02 AM S<SteveT> Stephen Terrill #info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson
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6:04 AM J<JasonHunt> 32.97.110.58 - http://webchat.freenode.net #info Jason Hunt, IBM
6:05 AM G<gilbert> 12.229.60.66 - http://webchat.freenode.net #info mazin gilbert
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6:06 AM Z<Zhaoxing_Meng> Zhaoxing Meng #info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE
6:07 AM C<cdonley> Chris Donley #info Chris Donley Huawei
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6:10 AM S<SteveT> Stephen Terrill #topic meeting start
6:11 AM #info Architecture moved to later in the day.
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6:27 AM C<cdonley> Chris Donley @kenny - would you please mute everyone (except Bin) on the HPA bridge?
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06:23:21 From Brian Hedstrom : We are getting keyboard noises
06:26:09 From stephen terrill : I can't see where it comes from
06:27:38 From Brian Hedstrom : Does anyone have Kenny on Instant Messenger?
06:28:09 From Alexis de Talhouët : IRC
06:28:46 From Alexis de Talhouët : Thanks Chris
06:33:29 From Kenny Paul : Alex hass host privs for this bridge.
06:34:22 From Kenny Paul : Alex can mute whoever needs to be muted.
06:37:51 From Brian : would "." or ":" be a better demarc ? seems like "_" might be a valid cloud region id
06:45:30 From Catherine Lefevre : Policy representative is on the bridge
06:46:11 From Catherine Lefevre : I am trying to get DCAE representative on this bridge
06:47:18 From Catherine Lefevre : ok trying to get SDC too
06:51:36 From Catherine Lefevre : DCAE - Lusheng is on the bridge
06:59:57 From Alexander Vul : Seshu - sounds like you may be off the hook here…
07:01:19 From Catherine Lefevre : Michael is on - SDC PTL
07:05:56 From Catherine Lefevre : Pam - Policy PTL is on the bridge now
07:13:55 From Brian : seems like for Beijing its SO to OOF and OOF passes on to policy all the contraints from the csar that apply and policy returns the things OOF needs - actual policies are put into policy separtely

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