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Thomas Kulik: Hi, there.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Thomas Mike.

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Andreas Geissler: Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Hi, Andrew. Hi, guys, okay. Hi, Hi, Pablo!

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Paweł Pawlak: Hello! Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening.

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Paweł Pawlak: I see Leigh. I'm joining. So, Liam, thank you for for all your contributions, too. Donna. Thank you for your great achievements for policy.

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Thank you very, thank you very much.

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Liam Fallon: Was he joined working on it.

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Paweł Pawlak: Yeah.

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Paweł Pawlak: So, looking forward to have some beer with you in in Dublin, Monday

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Liam Fallon: in the in Nefy also.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So, Bean, I have a question to you. Could you please share the the wiki? I have.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay. Can you see my screen?

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Paweł Pawlak: Yes, yes, we can see.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: so who's reading this meeting Kenny is not there? Sandra is out for family emergency. Right? So.

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Paweł Pawlak: okay, so I can lead. And yeah, I will do my best to to meet the this this scope, and also time tim timeline. So

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Paweł Pawlak: so we've prepared some some agenda yesterday with union with Kenny. So

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Paweł Pawlak: looking at what's what's at stake. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: for the release status, I think, being new, presented it already a few times at least, unless there are some updates you would like to share today. Yeah, let me quickly just Pto starting. And

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Byung-Woo Jun: the Philip information I'm feeding in up to the Ptr information.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And I talked Andrews and is going to, if he can, under fill up the State.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And then, since this week is Chinese New Year holiday, so I couldn't contact, you know, within. But I'm going to contact next week, and then to fill up the information rest of the but getting there so almost there. Andress, if you know the I would do that definitely. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: yeah, not a problem. Just you know. Yeah, yes. Problem. Just Helen, chat doublet, and then also state. And that will be fine.

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Byung-Woo Jun: And the

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Byung-Woo Jun: yeah, that's about it. Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: back to you. Thank you. Thank you. View, this is important initiative. And

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Paweł Pawlak: yeah, let's let's update it for the next week with reminding items

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Paweł Pawlak: for the relinch. We had this issues about, we've been accessing nexus. So we've been. We've been discussing it on Monday for the Pts call any progress address.

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Yes, it seems to be

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Andreas Geissler: resolved at least this today. I think. Ii think I had at least less problems in the deep T net. So I think so. We have forwarded the problems to our networking guys. And it seems to help now. So I think internally, we have now hopefully resolve the issue. So, but it's yeah.

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Andreas Geissler: So we can now, hopefully, it progress with the with the gatings and the daily builds. Now.

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Andreas Geissler: yeah, okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: okay, should treat as is reserved.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can treat it as as resolved. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: thank you.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you. I don't see any anyone from the

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Paweł Pawlak: Lf, it. So I'm not sure if you can cover the container signing, update

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Paweł Pawlak: if not, then we will try to to catch it for the maybe next week agenda for the Tsc. Or Pts call if somebody would be

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Paweł Pawlak: no

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Paweł Pawlak: for the Pts, updates, okay, we have the policy appointments.

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Paweł Pawlak: So Liam, would you like to

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Paweł Pawlak: give some update here.

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Liam Fallon: I can. Yeah, so we I I've I'm moving on to and you and you what? Moving on to new new new work. So

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Liam Fallon: I initiated, the

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Liam Fallon: like election process are the set nomination process in the policy framework with the existing commuters.

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Liam Fallon: And we got one self nomination from

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Liam Fallon: Ramesh Morgan, Ayur and

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Liam Fallon: So II didn't think there was much reason to. II just thought, rather than going through the process of an election with only one candidate.

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Liam Fallon: It would be easier just to ask the Dsc. To

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Liam Fallon: approval. Ramesh, as a policy. You can see Ramesh is

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Liam Fallon: has been a commissioner on the project, maybe for about 2 years now, and he's familiar with

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Liam Fallon: with the processes I need. A few times he's when I was available. He's stepped in as well to run the policy meeting and that sort of thing.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: do we have a quorum to vote today. We have a 1, 2,

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Byung-Woo Jun: 3, 4.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Thomas, are you? Are you a Tsc.

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Andreas Geissler: No.

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Byung-Woo Jun: I counted under 1 2 members, so

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Byung-Woo Jun: I don't know. It's no, you know only one single dominator. So maybe I don't know how we handle that. So

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Byung-Woo Jun: so 2 member.

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Liam Fallon: what's the what's the quorum?

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Byung-Woo Jun: 5.

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Liam Fallon: So I'm sorry, Liam. We need to vote next week. I hope it's the it should not affect your, your, your.

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Paweł Pawlak: your your plans right we simply,

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Paweł Pawlak: approve the the Ptl. And again, thank you for for all your contributions. It was a pleasure to work with you and hope to see you, anyway, in in one of the

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Paweł Pawlak: elephant events. Right?

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Liam Fallon: okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Okay, thank you. We're gonna you know, we're, gonna you know. Put this agenda again for next week. Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: yeah. Okay for the for the DM. App you don't have. Yes.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: no, I was just. I was just saying Thank you to Liam for all his work, and I just wanted Liam probably knows that

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: in a lot of the policy work is used for many things, but in the space of Oran

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: then the smo architecture calls out a policy function. And so there's a place for that for the one app work.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: And so, thanks. Yeah.

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Byung-Woo Jun: thank you. Thank you. Everyone. Thank you.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Step down. Okay. No. Ptr successor. So anyway, after we duplicate mo, possibly. New Delhi.

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Byung-Woo Jun: If there's no for the progress and also law and the following, then we can go through the one maintain project. But for now we just keep the Dmap in architecture, and then no Pto. As a new.

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Byung-Woo Jun: So I see that that Kevin and Jess are are connected. So

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Paweł Pawlak: let's go back to the, to the item related to container signing with the Github Github actions. So just or Kevin.

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Paweł Pawlak: when we could have, like some final recommendation, or

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Paweł Pawlak: like a presentation, maybe to

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Paweł Pawlak: either to second or TSC. Zoom solution.

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Jessica Wagantall: The signing of is already happening actually, the since since December, II believe I made a few announcements that see go 6 door. It's signing our docker images and pushing the signatures.

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Jessica Wagantall: Okay, so we don't we? We are not waiting for anything more right? One community at a time.

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Jessica Wagantall: We are currently working on Oran to to migrate first. And I believe Eric was working on acre as well. So we're gonna

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Jessica Wagantall: let that happen first and then start thinking about migrating own.

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Jessica Wagantall: yes, to be next?

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Jessica Wagantall: with the with orren we, we are probably about, I would say, 10% or so. Unfortunately, I mean, it's it. It's hard work, mostly, because whenever we develop a new work flow testing that work flow has a lot of challenges. And also we depend a lot on the community to help us review changes approve changes, etc., since

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Jessica Wagantall: I don't believe anybody in my team has super committer permissions there to keep us a little bit working faster.

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Jessica Wagantall: But but yeah, I mean, III will. I will let you guys know how that goes.

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Paweł Pawlak: Thank you. Jess, hmm, okay? So moving forward. So subcommittee update view.

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Byung-Woo Jun: yeah. The Dmap, Emma, the application update address. Do you have any update? You analyze the dependencies. And you did some work there.

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Andreas Geissler: we have a couple of DC components. Which will are

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Andreas Geissler: affected by the deal by by the Mr. Removal.

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Andreas Geissler: some at least where we have a way we are interested in, at least so as the which is the the best collector, the Pra handler, and most likely also others.

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Andreas Geissler: There are.

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Andreas Geissler: on one hand, patch has been done already to remove the dependency, and there will be, or there is, some patches which are

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Andreas Geissler: but there are still a couple of micro services which would need to be changed. But it must. It does only make sense to change them. If some one is interested in

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Andreas Geissler: worth the effort, let's say, to spend the the effort for that.

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Andreas Geissler: Okay? Then, yeah, then we have the Nbi component, which is currently

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Andreas Geissler: archived. Where? But we are internally using Nbi

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Andreas Geissler: as well as also as I heard. Also, Tata is using it.

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Andreas Geissler: We in internally have have forked it because we have internally added some features which we

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Andreas Geissler: don't know exactly whether we can up let's say upstream them

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Andreas Geissler: but we we we discuss this otherwise, let's say, as I said, it is at the moment archived. And if no one else is interested in that

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it doesn't make sense. Also to update that and to reopen it and update it.

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Andreas Geissler: Then we have A and AI,

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Andreas Geissler: and as O both will be updated by DT,

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Andreas Geissler: so to get rid of the dependency.

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Andreas Geissler:  then we have

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Andreas Geissler: the the what was the other? The other one sdn, CD map listener

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Andreas Geissler:  think this is pending, have to check that maybe with Dan. Whether there is someone to

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Andreas Geissler: update and the Dmap listener

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Andreas Geissler: and I see policy. Yeah, policy. I think Liam has. App has already

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Andreas Geissler: a task in his project to make the update. But I'm not sure when he's

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Andreas Geissler: or when, if and when the team is planning to do the migration. Yeah, it's already done.

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Andreas Geissler: It's already done good, good. And there was the the Stc. Where it let's say it turns out that the

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Andreas Geissler: the the the main migration is already done. There was just some health check

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Andreas Geissler: The MR. And I have now created a patch that

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Andreas Geissler: is redirecting the URL of the Mr. So that it will not. Let's say it will not harm, so it will. It will still, let's say, try to ping and make some health check on the on the Mr. But it's not not using it actually. So we can

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Andreas Geissler: safely take this out.

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Andreas Geissler: So I just change the Urls, basically.

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Andreas Geissler: this is in the still engaging. So I have to test this and then approve it.

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Andreas Geissler: Okay, so for Sdc, that that's fine. So that means we have

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Andreas Geissler: couple these couple of of didcie micro services where we don't actually know whether the someone is using them

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Andreas Geissler: Sdn. See which we need to check. What is the effort to

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Andreas Geissler: change that one?

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Andreas Geissler: Just the until you can maybe.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Yeah. Check with it. Then, yeah, okay.

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Byung-Woo Jun: okay, good.

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Byung-Woo Jun: Good. Thank you. And I created. I talked to Amy and Pablo. And that second and based on the input, I created the global requirement.

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Byung-Woo Jun: That's the impact to many projects. So any other requirement. This is the requirement. Just add in reference, you can. If you want to use, you can use this. There is still upcome, issued the global requirement for

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Byung-Woo Jun: removal in New Delhi. So anyway, this is reference. And Theakra he issued this Mo. Application from the Dmap team from the team. And this is requirement their requirement could over require. So we have a several requirement for that. So, okay, okay, thank you.

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Paweł Pawlak: Back to you. Thank you. Thank you. Bjun. Okay, so hmm. we need, we need to have a

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Paweł Pawlak: you know, somebody. I'll I think it. This was discussed already. So just a reminder

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Paweł Pawlak: that as as we don't have David so we are waiting for the confirmation

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Paweł Pawlak: from Sandra that she could be the right person to

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Paweł Pawlak: to, to, to to be in for the for the budging

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Paweł Pawlak: appointed.

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Paweł Pawlak: yeah. So Assembly has some

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Paweł Pawlak: temporary family emergency. So we're waiting for her return and confirmation. That

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Paweł Pawlak: would be her

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Paweł Pawlak: as for the

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Paweł Pawlak: you know. packages, upgrades.

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Paweł Pawlak: so work in progress by Amy and her team. So please expect some updates, probably next week.

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on this topic. So

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Paweł Pawlak: he proposed it.

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Paweł Pawlak: The yeah and a reminder about Ernie Summit and following. Dtf. so please.

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Paweł Pawlak: consider some some proposals

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Paweł Pawlak: we need to find the successor for for Timo from Nokia he was supporting cancer for many years

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Paweł Pawlak: for that to to work on the agenda for the for the event for the Dts.

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Paweł Pawlak: So yeah, if there are any volunteers piece.

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Paweł Pawlak: don't be shy and hesitate.

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Paweł Pawlak: There are some, I think, weekly meetings on Friday.

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Paweł Pawlak: every 5 days. So

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Paweł Pawlak: and the the the team's working then on on agenda, how to construct it in the in the right way. Hmm! I think we have the all the topics for today. I don't know. Are there any other updates that somebody would like to share.

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Andreas Geissler: hearing none. So.

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Paweł Pawlak: happy New Year for the colleagues from from from China. And I hope we meet next week with the wider audience. So we could formalize

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: the new Ptl. For policy. And again, thank you, Liam, for for your contributions.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Yeah, a quick comment. Is. And some of you will probably be aware, but I think it's relevant to own up

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: in the Oran Alliance there is.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: there is momentum

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: to show that O. An smo has different smo services and functions. and I see them as

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: sort of places where anyone interested in the way on app technology is used for RAM.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: That's that's where it sort of belongs. And previously I've talked about this at that time it was a technical report.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: and now there is a lot of activity.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: Where it'll start coming into the architecture, official, formal architecture document, for example, the policy service that I just mentioned, and there are others

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: just just an just sort of an fi thank you for showing some kind of sure appreciate it. Okay.

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Paweł Pawlak: is there any link that we could submit here, or or is there a little to share? Some

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: I can give you? I can send a link, but it's but it will be an or an alliance link, and it's not open. It's open to numbers. Yeah, but I can send it anyway. I mean, most companies probably are, or an alliance members. Also.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: I I'll send that? Not a problem. Yeah, I mean, we can restrict that access link right? Comment.

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Paweł Pawlak: So for the companies that they have access, they could access for the ones that they don't. They would know that. Okay, this is restricted, restricted, right?

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: And I actually checked once.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: it seems the official policy is that the documents are actually non confidential.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: So once the Osi Co. Chair told me

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: that the documents are non confidential. If you don't have access, you can't get it. But if you but if but if you actually manage to

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: get the Pdf legally, you're allowed to read it.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: anyway. But yeah, we we're just doing it, too. It's only relevant to to.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: I mean, it is not only it is very relevant to anyone who is interested in uran components being used for the over and sml. and that's where it belongs. If it I mean, if you don't fit in there, it's difficult to figure out where it will be fit in.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: And and some people should be at least aware.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: And it's sort of it's it's happening. It's getting to a more of a formal stage. Now.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: So I'll I'll send the link

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: shankar the previous view. You share the some optic diagram. How the owner component being used plan to be used. Yeah, no. Technically it is similar.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: But previously it was a report. It was supposed to be an informative document. Okay, now, what's happening?

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: The the

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: the significance of what I'm saying is, take away is now all that is is is in bits and pieces. It's modifying the main

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: or an architecture document

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: which will have, which will have it doesn't get more formal than that, as far as architecture is concerned. But the details will still be in the working groups. Yeah, yeah, that that'd be nice. Please share with us the link, anyway, if I take the policy example.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: The the details of the policy have not been specified, and it'll take some time.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: But before this step, if someone asks.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: is there a policy for is there a place in Smol where coordination, policy, coordination might be done. And the answer was.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: There's nothing even referring to policy coordination. Now there is an smo service which is supposed to do policy, coordination and storage and things like not sorry. So at least access to policy, status of policy and policy, types and all. I mean, there's a placeholder.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: It will be flashed out. It will take, you know. It will take months before that happens, but without that I hope you understand. There's no

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: you couldn't even formally say whether the policy was inside as some part of Sm or not. and similarly for service, orchestration and service assurance. And all these things are being added as blocks.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay.

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N.K. Shankaranarayanan: yes.

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Paweł Pawlak: Alright. Any topic proposals for the next week. Agenda.

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Paweł Pawlak: Apart from the ones we we know already. it will be there.

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Paweł Pawlak: Okay, so

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Paweł Pawlak: thank you very much. Guys

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Paweł Pawlak: have a wonderful rest of today and talk to you next week.

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Andreas Geissler: Thank you. Okay, thank you. Thank you. Bye.

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