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13:43:08 <kennypaul>#chair phrobb, SteveT13:43:08 <collabot`> Current chairs: SteveT kennypaul phrobb
13:43:26 <kennypaul>#topic rollcall and agenda13:58:27 <kennypaul>#info Murat Turpcu, Turk Telekom13:59:58 <cdonley>#info Chris Donley Huawei14:00:17 <SteveT>#info Stephen Terrill, Ericsson14:00:23 <RannyHaiby>#info Ranny Haiby, Nokia14:00:29 <Srini>#info proxy Srini Addepalli, Intel14:00:58 <ningso>#info Ning So, Reliance Jio14:01:06 <JasonHunt>#info Jason Hunt, IBM14:01:30 <frankbrockners>#info Frank Brockners, Cisco14:01:54 <kennypaul> 3info Alla Goldner, AMDOCS
14:02:14 <kennypaul>#info Alla Goldner, AMDOCS14:02:51 <Sanchita>#info proxy Sanchita Pathak, TechMahindra14:03:03 <xinhuili>#info Xinhui Li, VMware14:03:04 <gilbert>#info mazin gilbert (AT&T)14:03:15 <Zhaoxing>#info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE14:03:18 <EricDebeau>#info Eric Debeau, Orange14:05:09 <Susana>#info Susana Sabater Vodafone14:05:19 <SteveT>#topic House Keeping14:05:44 <SteveT>#info meeting request via tool/link only14:06:02 <SteveT>#info TSC memebers fill out the instant messaging page by Monday14:07:20 <SteveT>#info Request by OPNFV TSC to see if we would like to colocate the events14:08:15 <Zhaoxing_Meng>#info Zhaoxing Meng, ZTE14:08:17 <SteveT>#info this is the December Developer event14:09:18 <Xiaojun>#info Xiaojun Xie, China Telecom14:11:07 <kennypaul>#topic end user advisory committee14:11:53 <SteveT>#info Mazin has been reaching out to equivilent of product managers for the End-User advisory committee14:13:31 <kennypaul>#info introductions of participants14:16:26 <kennypaul>#info participants that mazin reached out to please send contact info to kenny14:18:54 <SteveT>#info Starting discussion to be held in the Use Case sub-committee14:19:13 <SteveT>#info Survey sent to them14:19:48 <ma_c>#info proxy Marc-Alexandre Choquette, Bell Canada14:19:50 <kennypaul>#info looking for participants to attend the Usecase subcommittee meeting on April 23rd.14:21:46 <SteveT>#topic Casablanca timeline14:21:54 <kennypaul>#topic Casablanca Release Schedule14:22:12 <kennypaul>#link https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/16223273/ONAPCasablancaTimelineV2.pdf?api=v214:25:35 <SteveT>#info request to align the use case approval to M0, however it was stated that is too late as the projects have to break down requirements for theplanning14:27:53 <SteveT>#info Clarification: Model frozen is that by M2 the is the basic model specification. Model final is the hard closed model at M314:28:06 <kennypaul>#info recommend May 10 for E2E use case approval of May 10, May 3 stretch goal.14:30:25 <SteveT>#info requset to move pairwise testing to close to M3.14:32:34 <SteveT>#info Changed to start pairwise testing the week before code freeze14:37:00 <kennypaul>#info discussion of OOM and CI/CD needs14:39:04 <SteveT>#info MS 3 moved 1 week earlier14:40:56 <SteveT>#info There is a request to include CI/CD14:43:36 <kennypaul>#info follow up meeting to discuss a myriad of proposed changes14:44:32 <kennypaul>#action gildaslanilis to schedule the follow up meeting for the casablanca schedule14:45:19 <EricDebeau>#info A true CI/CD chain is key for Casablanca. Need to setup as early as possible14:45:26 <SteveT>#info Topics to discuss in timeplan folow-up CD/CD, pairwise testing, different project offset (e.g. OOM, ).14:48:37 <kennypaul>#info to be finalized at Monday PTL meeting followed by an email vote by TSC14:49:30 <kennypaul>#topic License Status Review14:50:14 <kennypaul>#info Steve Winslow shared his slides14:55:00 <kennypaul>#info slides posted to the meeting agenda page now.14:56:56 <kennypaul>#info concerns flagged for tpm2-tool in the aaf/sshsm repo14:59:46 <kennypaul>#info Srinivasa Addepali states that there is no other linking to other ONAP components.15:01:21 <kennypaul>#info ongoing discussions w/ Intel on relicensing tpm2-tool under Apache15:01:38 <kennypaul>#topic Release Status Review15:02:14 <kennypaul>#info message router, sdnc, vfc done15:02:26 <kennypaul>#info dcae work in progress15:02:54 <kennypaul>#info dmaap satisfies M4 requirements now15:04:21 <kennypaul>#info PTLs ensure RC0 templates are completed15:04:57 <kennypaul>#info passing jenkins healtchech, daily job and csit required15:05:33 <kennypaul>#info daily bug reports to be distributed beginning at REC015:06:28 <kennypaul>#info ptls provide helpdesk with link to daily jave version and update manifest15:07:17 <kennypaul>#info discussion of tagging - needs to be 2.0.0-ONAP15:08:14 <kennypaul>#info need docker tagging consistency15:08:29 <kennypaul>#undo15:08:29 <collabot`> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.ircmeeting.items.Info object at 0x2793bd0>
15:09:53 <kennypaul>#info usecaseuo, estapi, aaf, vvp still pending.15:10:14 <kennypaul>#topic Integration status15:11:04 <kennypaul>#info helenychen reviewed her slides15:11:41 <kennypaul>#info heat 27/33 and oom 18/33 healthcheck passed15:12:27 <kennypaul>#info no healthcheck from aaf, ccsdk, cli, externalapi, holmes, logging, music, oof, vnfsdk, vvp15:16:06 <kennypaul>#info discussion of oof staffing challenges.15:16:47 <SteveT>#info OOM requested 1 week delay exemption15:17:24 <kennypaul>#info holmes healthcheck is embedded in dcae.15:19:08 <kennypaul>#info oom now passes 22/3315:22:05 <gildaslanilis> Outcome of OOM and Heat HealthCheck are available in Jenkins at https://jenkins.onap.org/view/External%20Labs/
15:22:13 <kennypaul>#topic vulnerability Template review15:22:46 <kennypaul>#infoptls taking this seriously - thank you15:23:00 <gildaslanilis>#info Outcome of OOM and Heat HealthCheck are available in Jenkins at https://jenkins.onap.org/view/External%20Labs/15:24:40 <kennypaul>#info SteveT reviewed his slides posted to the meeting page15:25:03 <kennypaul>#info wip for aaf, aai, appc, dcae, ploicy, portal, portal, sdc, usecaseui15:25:41 <kennypaul>#info portal requires significant work - will requore tsc approval.15:27:24 <kennypaul>#action manoop update the template to reflect risks15:28:07 <kennypaul>#info manoop reports template recently updated.15:29:03 <kennypaul>#info externalapi no info15:29:38 <kennypaul>#info include vulnerability update weekly at tsc15:35:12 <kennypaul>#topic university15:38:38 <kennypaul>#info meetings starting, discussion about dates15:41:46 <kennypaul>#info university project was deprecated - needs to be re-submitted as previous data is not valid15:41:54 <kennypaul>#endmeeting
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07:12:05 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : Kenny, for the links in the PDF agenda - could we past the full URL - going back to the PDF some of the wiki links are not navigable - and we want to make sure we are on the right page - thanks 07:12:41 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : @michael ok 07:13:22 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : One-click ONAP deployment templates, boostrap, helm scripts off of https://jira.onap.org/browse/OOM-710 will be in oom/install 07:14:00 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://jira.onap.org/browse/OOM-710 07:22:16 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : #link https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/16223273/ONAPCasablancaTimelineV2.pdf?api=v2 07:26:25 From Brian : can we add to M3 milestone that we start parwise testing that week ? 07:31:18 From Pamela Dragosh (AT&T, Policy, Control Loop) : I have high doubts that the projects are ready to do pairwise testing at M3. 07:31:32 From Randa Maher : For Beijing, we didn't add a week, we took a week away from M4 07:32:21 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : We need more time for integration (Testing and also devops refactors (OOM/Kubernetes work)) - based on experience in Amsterdam/Beijing - way before code freeze 07:33:00 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : Or we do CI/CD every day - not at the end 07:33:11 From Tina Tsou @Arm : yes 07:33:25 From Tina Tsou @Arm : Jenkins 07:33:28 From Eric Debeau : We also need to impove our CI/CD chain 07:33:52 From Randa Maher : why can we have a new milestone between M4 and RC0 for OOM ? 07:34:15 From Brian : that looks good gildas 07:34:40 From Eric Debeau : We need a project to manage a powerful CI/CD chain 07:35:25 From Brian : agree but the timeline in front of us needs to be approved - M3 - Catherine asked to move it to the left a week 07:35:43 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : Yes go-cd/gitlab (used by CNCF) - or some more jenkins jobs - what we have in jenkins.onap.org/ext-jobs and jenkins.onap.info is a good start 07:36:05 From Srinivasa Addepalli (Intel) : Is expectation of Casablanca to move to TOSCA for all use cases and deprecate HOT? If so, Isn't 08/30 deadline for model too late? 07:36:42 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : batched likely every commit or 5-30 min - depending on resources - better if I get a "helm upgrade" CD server going on top of the timed hourly CD deploy 07:37:11 From Pamela Dragosh (AT&T, Policy, Control Loop) : Portal, aaf, dmaap, msg should have earlier milestones. 07:37:20 From Pamela Dragosh (AT&T, Policy, Control Loop) : msb (not msg) 07:37:36 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : Yes MSB is critical - as 10+ healthchecks depend on it like AAF 07:37:36 From Brian : I'm not aware of any decision to Deprecate HOT for VNF instantiation - ONAP needs to support both styles of VNF install 07:38:01 From Randa Maher : do we need two release trains? core foundational project on one train with offset timeline to the other projects? 07:38:23 From Brian : API freeze needs to move earlier 07:38:33 From Pamela Dragosh (AT&T, Policy, Control Loop) : Yes Randa - I was thinking the same thing. Maybe some projects should be on a different cycle. 07:39:44 From Srinivasa Addepalli (Intel) : I agree. Having foundational projects releasing earlier is good. 07:40:18 From Randa Maher : did we have a proposal earlier to move M3 out to address pairwise testing prior to M4? 07:40:28 From Brian : Eric - I agree we need that CI process implented 07:40:31 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : OPNFV's CI/CD is the best one - but we need to finish tagging (which looks 80% done) and then daily docker builds - need to be on demand - then we can key into OPNFV's infrastructure 07:43:17 From Eric Debeau : there is a meeting during Vancouver DevEvent about XCI 07:44:39 From Stephen Terrill : So, Follow-up meeting 07:44:43 From Stephen Terrill : check with PTL meeting? 07:45:02 From xinhui li : That would be better 07:46:59 From Kenny Paul (Linux Foundation) : time check 20 mins over 07:47:23 From Brian : PTL meeting is the right forum 07:47:39 From Brian : they are the ones on the hook 07:47:48 From Gildas Lanilis - Huawei : https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/Release+Planning#ReleasePlanning-CasablancaReleasePlanning 07:47:54 From Seshu : Yes +1 07:48:11 From Gildas Lanilis - Huawei : Link to provide feedback. 07:48:18 From Ramki Krishnan : Need a concrete definition for upgrade for Casablanca release 07:48:56 From Mazin : Thank you Gildas 07:49:12 From Eric Debeau : We must pragmatic for upgrade and get feedbacks from Telcos who deployed live ONAP 07:51:54 From Brian : Most of it is obvious stuff - no loss of data , old features work after upgrade , new features work on new software 07:52:15 From Roger Maitland : OOM/Helm provides powerful upgrade capabilities but we still need to provide data migration for each project. There is work to do but it should be manageable. 07:52:38 From Brian : usually we freeze external requests during the upgrade window and dry out any in flight transactions before the upgrade 07:53:17 From Brian : pre and post upgrade test scripts and generally a rollback strategy for a failed upgrade 07:54:01 From Roger Maitland : Rollback is a core capability of Helm. 07:54:31 From Roger Maitland : Likewise with pre/post upgrade scripts (like data migration scripts) 07:57:46 From Roger Maitland : Here is a link to the OOM Upgrade documentation: http://onap.readthedocs.io/en/latest/submodules/oom.git/docs/oom_user_guide.html#upgrade 08:02:12 From Eric Debeau : There is still extapi missing 08:02:45 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : healthcheck for Kubernetes peaks at 20 of 33 passing as of the last 2 days 08:03:05 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : dashboard 08:03:07 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) :
08:03:11 From Huabing Zhao : Are there any OOM deployment in the open lab I can look into? 08:03:26 From Pamela Dragosh (AT&T, Policy, Control Loop) : Verify jobs should not be counted 08:03:33 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : last run - every 2 hours 08:03:35 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : http://jenkins.onap.info/job/oom-cd-master/2649/console 08:03:54 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : Yes, there is 3 (openlab, tlab, aws) 08:04:24 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : tlab, openlab official LF 08:04:26 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://jenkins.onap.org/view/External%20Labs/ 08:04:43 From Brian : Michael - ete-k8sh cant find kubectl in SB06 - is therr an environment file I need to . in 08:04:48 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : aws 08:04:48 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : http://jenkins.onap.info/job/oom-cd-master/ 08:05:07 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : sould be in ./kube/config 08:05:16 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : for the user (root or ubuntu) 08:05:37 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : sorry ~/.kube/conjfig 08:05:55 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : generated on the server in the UI in rancher - or via the install script 08:05:56 From Roger Maitland : Huabing - the SB6 system in the integration lab is available. Contact Mike Elliott for details. 08:06:10 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : script 08:06:11 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://jira.onap.org/browse/OOM-715 08:06:26 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://gerrit.onap.org/r/#/c/32019/ 08:07:21 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : yes, mike E. for SB06 - I can also add another server in the Log tenant later if we need more 08:07:30 From Huabing Zhao : @Michale I mean can I login the portal and play with 08:07:53 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : port 30311 on the host 08:07:58 From Huabing Zhao : @Roger Thanks for the information 08:08:00 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : sorry 30211 08:08:28 From Huabing Zhao : @Michale Thanks 08:08:35 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : very nice - thank you LF 08:08:37 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://jira.onap.org/browse/CIMAN-132 08:12:11 From Eric Debeau : We have currently working on integrating the HealthCheck API for External API in Robot. 08:12:36 From Brian : CCSDK doesnt get instantiated so it doesnt need a healthcheck - healthcheck is in SDNC / APPC 08:12:50 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : Working LOG robot HC (consul HC already in) - https://jira.onap.org/browse/OOM-914 08:12:52 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://jira.onap.org/browse/LOG-223 08:12:52 From Helen Chen : ok 08:14:09 From Bharath Balasubramanian : Helen, music health check should be done by today…the URL etc has been provided ..just waiting for the merge to happen by Daniel rose 08:14:20 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : CCSDK shoiuld be OK - a HC will be against running containers only - this would be the differentiator 08:14:50 From Bharath Balasubramanian : (We just gave it to Dan yesterday) 08:15:16 From Gary Wu : On Music: Daniel is waiting for some username/password info before the change can be merged. Please follow up with him. 08:15:31 From Bharath Balasubramanian : Gary, just replied to him on that.. 08:15:37 From Bharath Balasubramanian : So we shud be fine 08:15:40 From Gary Wu : ok, thanks 08:15:44 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : be on the onap-release distribution list to get these 08:15:44 From Bharath Balasubramanian : thanks! 08:16:12 From Lusheng Ji : Helen and Gildas, Holmes health check is embedded in DCAE. 08:16:30 From Gildas Lanilis - Huawei : Thanks Lusheng 08:16:32 From Guangrong Fu : That’s what I want to say. Thanks Lusheng. 08:17:04 From Guangrong Fu : So Gildas, do we have to it separately? 08:17:21 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : docker manifest - correct location right? 08:17:21 From Roger Maitland : Michael’s CD system is reporting 22/33 health checks passing this morning (on OOM) 08:17:22 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://gerrit.onap.org/r/gitweb?p=integration.git;a=blob;f=version-manifest/src/main/resources/docker-manifest.csv;h=42bb6bb612d34dcd3aab82e4565d85cb7046a970;hb=refs/heads/master 08:17:39 From Gildas Lanilis - Huawei : if Homes is embedded witin DCAE, we are fine 08:17:56 From Lusheng Ji : Thanks! 08:18:32 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : http://jenkins.onap.info/job/oom-cd-master/2650/console 08:18:39 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : 22 of 33 passing 08:20:45 From Gildas Lanilis - Huawei : Outcome of Heat and OOM healthcheck are available here https://jenkins.onap.org/view/External%20Labs/ 08:20:53 From Eric Debeau : @Helen, how can you pass the use-case tests if all healthchecks are not ok 08:20:59 From Brian : Need hotel info and visa infor for Beijing 08:21:01 From Brian : F2F 08:21:27 From Helen Chen : @Eric, we have not passed them all 08:21:33 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : yes depending on the test - for vFW you need only the amsterdam level components - and less if you don't need closed-loop (around 12) 08:22:43 From Helen Chen : We are doing our test to test as much as we can 08:23:37 From Helen Chen : for heat deployment, DCAE does not pass health, but onboarding and distribution does not use that component. 08:23:55 From Eric Debeau : OK. Thanks for the clarification 08:24:34 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : appc, sdnc, policy, portal, so, aai, robot, dmaap(message-router), sdc, vid (dcaegen2 for closed-loop) - are critical, vfc and others for the more complicated use cases 08:24:36 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DW/Tutorial%3A+Verifying+and+Observing+a+deployed+Service+Instance 08:25:26 From Lusheng Ji : Thanks Helen. DCAE health check is available on consul but there is some differences from R1. We are working with Marco and Dan on updating the robot reporting. 08:25:33 From Taka Cho : Stephen, sorry I did not send email to you for APPC security vulnerability. Here is APPC updates: https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=16274401 08:27:10 From Randa Maher : Stephen, we made updates to APPC security vulnerability wiki around jackson items and more will follow 08:28:25 From Manoop Talasila : Portal security template. https://lf-onap.atlassian.net/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=16276943 08:30:01 From Michael O'Brien (LOG, Amdocs) : dropping off to log spec call